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Tele_Man
Bronze Member

USA
86 Posts

Posted - 07/18/2007 :  18:13:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The CE-2 requires an ASA adaptor. What happens if I use a PSA adaptor? Can I power the CE-2 off a PSA adaptor if the adaptor is plugged into a TU-2 tuner with a daisy chain running from the tuner to the CE-2 and other pedals?

Thanks

Goran
Double Platinum Member

Sweden
2203 Posts

Posted - 07/18/2007 :  19:26:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
With only PSA and CE-2 you get a poor sounding chorus, add TU-2 (or another PSA-pedal) with a daisy chain and you get a CE-2 sounding just the way it�s supposed to.
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ronster
Gold Member

Australia
645 Posts

Posted - 07/20/2007 :  01:30:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm not technical but it's something to do with a diode inside, which works with a daisy chain but doesn't work with a PSA directly.

There's always batteries!
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bossFan
Bronze Member

Portugal
97 Posts

Posted - 07/20/2007 :  22:09:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The daisy chain connects 2 or more pedals in paralel with the input power supply (in the TU-2,PSM-5,LS-2).
Does not affect sound of a pedal in any way.
An ACA pedal must have a circuit change for working 100% with a PSA Adaptor.
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Tele_Man
Bronze Member

USA
86 Posts

Posted - 07/21/2007 :  17:25:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Forgive my ignorance, BossFan, but I don't quite understand your post. Are you saying I shouldn't use a PSA with the CE-2? And what do you mean by circuit change?

My CE-2 is easily 20 years old now and shows a lot of wear and tear, but I want to make sure I don't fry it or something. This was my first pedal from when I was 15, so it's got sentimental value (I actually sold it to a guy last summer in a fit of stupidity but managed to re-acquire it recenty - for free!)

Thanks everybody for all the tips and suggestions. Very helpful indeed!
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member

Ireland
3543 Posts

Posted - 07/21/2007 :  20:03:42  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i think what boss fan means tele_man...is that if you were to try to use the ce2 directly off a psa adapter it would not work so good as the old aca adapters were 12-14 volts(there is some debate about the exact voltage boss used)if i understand correctly the aca pedals like your ce2 have a small thing(diode/resistor i'm not up on the finer electrical points...) inside that reduces the voltage down to 9 volts but for some reason if you use a aca type pedal in a set up with other psa pedals off a psa adapter it will work fine...again i'm not the best person to explain this but i think it's something to do with the common earth..i.e the connector leads between the pedals when the aca and psa pedals are linked together in a chain the voltage reducer inside the aca pedal is bypassed and it works the same as the other psa ones.... i'm sure there is at least a couple of threads lurking around the forum on this subject which explain it better...Dr Bob,stahlhart or stinkfoot if he's around could explain the tech stuff a lot better..i hope i haven't confused the issue even more...!!!........

sorry went a bit off track..if you try to use the ce2 directly off a psa adapter i don't think you will do any damage but you get the effect of the pedal is running with a nearly dead battery,the led is dim and the sound won't be great.....

Edited by - FRANZONI on 07/21/2007 20:11:12
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Leeroyfunk
Silver Member

United Kingdom
400 Posts

Posted - 07/21/2007 :  21:26:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Stinkfoot explains all:

http://www.stinkfoot.se/andreas/diy/articles/bossadapt.htm

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Tele_Man
Bronze Member

USA
86 Posts

Posted - 07/22/2007 :  03:11:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My thanks to all for the feedback. Had I done a quick search of the forums I would have discovered that my questions has been asked and answered many times. Lesson learned . . . I'll do a little research before my next post.

I believe I know all I need to know about ASA vs. PSA adaptors. I feel quite safe now running my CE-2 off a daisy chain from my TU-2.

Cheers!
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Dr. Bob
Moderator

Australia
6593 Posts

Posted - 07/22/2007 :  04:07:57  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Bossarea & Guys

Perhaps we could make this info available as a Sticky, or maybe a FAQ
(Frequently ANSWERED Questions)

I know Bossarea is very busy, & don't want to put an extra burden on him.
It just seems, that we seem to cover the same ground many times, as new members sign on, & it might make it easier for them.
Not that I mind answering all the questions; It's just that some newbe's might be a bit timed, when it comes to asking.

Even just a link to the appropriate page in this forum
or perhaps, "With Permission" from Stinkfoot, a link back to his page?

What do you guys think?

Regards Dr. Bob
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bossarea
Forum Admin

United Kingdom
3652 Posts

Posted - 07/22/2007 :  11:22:53  Show Profile  Visit bossarea's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It is definitely one of the repeating questions so we should do something.
A sticky thread might not be a bad idea.

We discussed earlier about setting up an FAQ section where we collected all threas such as this. I completely forgot about that before I got a chance to create it.
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member

Ireland
3543 Posts

Posted - 07/22/2007 :  12:29:10  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
sounds like a good idea....some seriously good people on this forum with a lot of electricial knowledge that their willing to share to the rest of us....if i can help in any small capacity feel free to ask....
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bossFan
Bronze Member

Portugal
97 Posts

Posted - 07/22/2007 :  19:11:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks to FRANZONI for the explanation in detail on the ACA/PSA subject.I could not do any better.
Also agree on the FAQ Section about technical details such as this..

Edited by - bossFan on 07/22/2007 19:12:51
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stinkfoot
Silver Member

Sweden
181 Posts

Posted - 07/25/2007 :  05:14:13  Show Profile  Visit stinkfoot's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Bob
Even just a link to the appropriate page in this forum
or perhaps, "With Permission" from Stinkfoot, a link back to his page?

What do you guys think?

Regards Dr. Bob


I'd have no problem with my ramblings being used as part of an FAQ, as long as there's also a link back to my site of course. However, as I'm aware that parts of my site are a bit word-heavy (fun for those who want to dig deeper, but maybe not for one who is looking for a shorter answer) I could also write a short summary on the subject, to be posted in said FAQ.

Bossarea - if you want me to contribute something new (and shorter), just let me know and I'll get cracking.

/Andreas

Edited by - stinkfoot on 07/25/2007 05:15:51
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bossarea
Forum Admin

United Kingdom
3652 Posts

Posted - 07/25/2007 :  10:33:30  Show Profile  Visit bossarea's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks Andreas. I've created a new Tech FAQ section so if you create a new post there it would be excellent.
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stinkfoot
Silver Member

Sweden
181 Posts

Posted - 07/26/2007 :  14:30:00  Show Profile  Visit stinkfoot's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I'll get to it asap, then.
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