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niftydog
Copper Member
Australia
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 Posted - 07/23/2007 : 09:54:07
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Hi guys, long time lurker, 1st post, you guys are NUTS! Anywho... Search isn't working, but it's probably good info for y'all anyway.
Been seeing abnormally high numbers of "silver screw" boss pedals of late (on evilbay, mostly.) Got me thinking, how the heck would you know what's real and what's not!?
I own a long dash CE-2. It has a black screw, but the sticker still has the "use a coin" blurb on it. I figure it's from the transition period between silver and black screws - prior to them reprinting the labels.
Then I saw a so-called "silver screw" CE-2 sell today (in Australia) for over AUD$175(US$150) which seems an absolute fortune for a CE-2 - mojo-factor or not. Trouble is, it had a short dash! This seems to be in contradiction to my perceived manufacturing timeline. I would have loved to have seen the label, but it was conspicuously absent from the auction page.
What say you experts about this? Is it reasonable to assume that all silver screw CE-2's would have the long dash, given that the long dash was still in use when the change was made to black screws? |
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
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bossarea
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
3652 Posts |
Posted - 07/23/2007 : 11:03:45
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Hi Niftydog and welcome to the forum.
Yes, we're nuts but in a good way 
Search only works on good days. I found the best way to search the forum is to use google (or your preferred search engine) and add site:bossarea.com to your search.
Where exactly the silver screw was introduced is still a little unclear but it looks like it happened very close to the switch from ink stamped serial numbers to paper sticker serials. The long dash disappeared around serial 13xx00 and at that time all pedals was made with the black screw. All silver screw pedals should therefore have the long dash unless the pedal never had a long dash (like the BF-2).
Fakes show up all the time. Most commonly DM-2s or CE-2s. I've sometimes asked for the serial numbers and found that you can even find MIT pedals with silver screws on Ebay 
For every silver screw fake there's probably also a black screw fake which explains why one of my 9800 GE-6s has a black thumb screw. |
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ronster
Gold Member
Australia
645 Posts |
Posted - 07/23/2007 : 14:57:56
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yeah... evilbay... says it all  |
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ChristoMephisto
Platinum Member
Canada
1288 Posts |
Posted - 07/23/2007 : 16:40:48
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When I saw that CE-2 go for nearly $250, it warmed my heart, in a cynical sort of way, as I have 5 baby blue CE-2's - and more n the way. 
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Securing your retirement? At the rate these pedals go up, you'll be sitting pretty for a long time |
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Goran
Double Platinum Member
Sweden
2203 Posts |
Posted - 07/23/2007 : 19:38:28
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| I have found several MIJ black screw CE-2 here in Sweden for under $60 the last year. I guess that originally this chorus have been sold in very huge numbers. That makes it a little hard to understand the high prices collector-wise, but player-wise it�s understandable (CE-2 is one of the greatest choruses ever). |
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niftydog
Copper Member
Australia
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Posted - 07/24/2007 : 00:56:41
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Dr. Bob, here's that evilbay link. $249!!! Wow... that's astonishing. The other thing I confirmed when I visited that link you posted was the box colour thing. It's changed dramatically, which makes the one above an even more obvious fake. I'm from sunny Canberra, BTW. What about yourself?
Bossarea, nice info, thanks. I like your brand of nuttiness, don't sweat! Out of curiosity, which other pedals had the long dash, do you know? I had wondered about the existence of silver screw BF-2's and I've already used google to poke around here and answer my question!
You guys seen this evilbay store? Some of it seems too good to be true to me. |
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Vim Fuego
Gold Member
Denmark
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Posted - 07/24/2007 : 12:41:57
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quote:
Originally posted by bossarea
Where exactly the silver screw was introduced is still a little unclear but it looks like it happened very close to the switch from ink stamped serial numbers to paper sticker serials. The long dash disappeared around serial 13xx00 and at that time all pedals was made with the black screw. All silver screw pedals should therefore have the long dash unless the pedal never had a long dash (like the BF-2).
What do you mean by "where silver screw was introduced" ??
It seems you are saying it started out with black screw - switched to silver and back again?
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bossarea
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/24/2007 : 14:27:35
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Whoops, complete language breakdown. My bad 
production started with silver screws. Around serial number 000000, black screws was introduced and has been used ever since. |
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Willemdaguide
Bronze Member
Netherlands
70 Posts |
Posted - 07/25/2007 : 14:54:59
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Well, I just got a BF-2 in the mail, SN 0300, blackscrew but with a black label what says "Use a coin"
Would this also be fake and should it have a silver screw instead of the black one?
regards! |
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
6593 Posts |
Posted - 07/25/2007 : 15:43:06
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quote:
Originally posted by niftydog
Dr. Bob, here's that evilbay link. $249!!! Wow... that's astonishing. The other thing I confirmed when I visited that link you posted was the box colour thing. It's changed dramatically, which makes the one above an even more obvious fake. I'm from sunny Canberra, BTW. What about yourself?
Bossarea, nice info, thanks. I like your brand of nuttiness, don't sweat! Out of curiosity, which other pedals had the long dash, do you know? I had wondered about the existence of silver screw BF-2's and I've already used google to poke around here and answer my question!
You guys seen this evilbay store? Some of it seems too good to be true to me.
Hi niftydog
I'm from Melbourne's South East.
Regards Dr. Bob  |
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niftydog
Copper Member
Australia
4 Posts |
Posted - 07/26/2007 : 02:24:29
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quote:
Originally posted by Willemdaguide
Well, I just got a BF-2 in the mail, SN 0300, blackscrew but with a black label what says "Use a coin"
Would this also be fake and should it have a silver screw instead of the black one?
You should only be concerned if you have a pedal that you suspect had its original black screw replaced with a fake silver screw. People tend to pay more for the silver screw versions. |
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mattoqua
Silver Member
Canada
438 Posts |
Posted - 07/26/2007 : 06:20:19
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so that means my 9400 GE-6 should have a SS? 
So i do have my first SS pedal, but just without the screw  |
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StratoSphere
Double Platinum Member
Canada
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Posted - 07/26/2007 : 13:31:13
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| could be, and i dont think you can buy those silver screws anywhere either. |
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mattoqua
Silver Member
Canada
438 Posts |
Posted - 07/27/2007 : 02:39:10
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There was a guy on ebay who sold an "extra screw" with one of his pedals. It showed pictures of the real black screw, then he said that an extra ss was included in case you want to "mod" the pedal.
At least he didn't stick it on there and sell it off as ss, but im sure whoever bought it would
I would love to get my hands on a ss just to see whats so special about them though |
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Fakes silver screws!
for one in a box with man. last Saturday night.
good to see another Aussie here.