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Goran
Double Platinum Member
Sweden
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 Posted - 02/11/2008 : 12:35:31
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Yesterday me and my son was having a recording session where one of the goals was to produce a really fuzzed/distorted sound with good sustain, good tone and definition. We wanted the kind of sound used by Kraut/psychedelic bands and not the heavy metal type.
We had the following to choose from:
Electro Harmonix Little Big Muff
Monsterpiece NPN Fuzz
Boss FZ-2/3/5
Boss MD-2
Boss MZ-2
Boss MT-2
Boss ML-2
Moody Fuzz (Fuzzface clone)
DOD Classic Fuzz
The result was that ML-2 sounded best of them all, and what we really liked was that this pedal had the least �bad� noise (hum etc) of them all when the settings was high (important when recording).
The bottom end of this pedal is very impressive indeed.
So, for our application ML-2 was the best �fuzz� to use. I have liked this pedal since I bought it (and I never play heavy metal) and it grows all the time.
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Mr Arkadin
Bronze Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/11/2008 : 12:53:16
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| i do wonder sometimes if some of the name choices limit the potential audience for these pedals - i mean Metal Core indeed, sounds like it'll be Korn all the way. |
Edited by - Mr Arkadin on 02/12/2008 08:50:40 |
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bossarea
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/11/2008 : 12:54:45
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| I'm surprised to hear that it was so succesful producing a good fuzz tone. The low noise nature of it is however not surpising. I compared it to the MD-2 trying to get a good metal sound and where the MD-2 sounded like an airplane, the ML-2 was dead silent. |
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Goran
Double Platinum Member
Sweden
2203 Posts |
Posted - 02/11/2008 : 13:10:53
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Originally posted by bossarea
I'm surprised to hear that it was so succesful producing a good fuzz tone. The low noise nature of it is however not surpising. I compared it to the MD-2 trying to get a good metal sound and where the MD-2 sounded like an airplane, the ML-2 was dead silent.
There is no sharp difference between a fuzz and a distortion-pedal, they can both be set in a way that sounds like the other one. I have fuzzes that when not maxed could be better described as overdrives, eg the fuzzface types. So for me a fuzz is more a sound than a name on a pedal, sort of�
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Caliban
Bronze Member
United Kingdom
145 Posts |
Posted - 02/11/2008 : 14:12:37
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Can I ask what pickup and selector position you were using?
The thing about those 1960's and 70's fuzz sounds is that they were often produced by using a fuzz as an overdrive/booster, and often with a neck pickup and tone rolled off - so there was loads of bass, for a full tone, with the amp's own compression adding sustain to the sound.
Lots of the "Modern Metal" pedals generate enormous amounts of low-end and an ultra-saturated sound - so I guess you could get a proper fuzz sound with a bridge pickup, with minimal contribution from the amp. |
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Goran
Double Platinum Member
Sweden
2203 Posts |
Posted - 02/11/2008 : 14:36:39
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Originally posted by Caliban
Can I ask what pickup and selector position you were using?
The thing about those 1960's and 70's fuzz sounds is that they were often produced by using a fuzz as an overdrive/booster, and often with a neck pickup and tone rolled off - so there was loads of bass, for a full tone, with the amp's own compression adding sustain to the sound.
Lots of the "Modern Metal" pedals generate enormous amounts of low-end and an ultra-saturated sound - so I guess you could get a proper fuzz sound with a bridge pickup, with minimal contribution from the amp.
I was using a Gibson SG, neck pickup, tone rolled back. I really like the sound produced this way, Clapton woman-tone or Robert Fripp-sound.
I would have liked to use a Strat neck pickup for this, but the hum problem is too big when using lots of fuzz/distortion.
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FatsoForgotso
Bronze Member
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Posted - 02/12/2008 : 07:27:33
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Originally posted by Caliban
Can I ask what pickup and selector position you were using?
The thing about those 1960's and 70's fuzz sounds is that they were often produced by using a fuzz as an overdrive/booster, and often with a neck pickup and tone rolled off - so there was loads of bass, for a full tone, with the amp's own compression adding sustain to the sound.
Lots of the "Modern Metal" pedals generate enormous amounts of low-end and an ultra-saturated sound - so I guess you could get a proper fuzz sound with a bridge pickup, with minimal contribution from the amp.
I do something similar with my rig.
I use my FZ-2 and PW-2 to eq my MXR distortion + with my tone rolled off and neck pickup and I get a real full and low end fuzz tone. Add a little drive from the PW and gain from the FZ and I can get pretty close to an old fuzz. Although My heart will always lie with the original sovtek big muffs. I still have yet to pick one up to call my own.
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
6593 Posts |
Posted - 02/12/2008 : 09:10:13
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Hi FatsoForgotso & guys
I just repaired one of those Army Green Russian Big Muff Pi's
While I was at it, I took some internal pics, as well.
Regards Dr. Bob |
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FatsoForgotso
Bronze Member
80 Posts |
Posted - 02/12/2008 : 19:10:37
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| they are awesome, I love them. |
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jack
Platinum Member
USA
1418 Posts |
Posted - 02/12/2008 : 23:40:27
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| My favorite fuzz by itself is still the DOD Classic Fuzz, and then my favorite fuzz using a overdrive into is my Big Muff Triangle clone... |
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
6593 Posts |
Posted - 02/13/2008 : 01:38:15
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Originally posted by jack
My favorite fuzz by itself is still the DOD Classic Fuzz, and then my favorite fuzz using a overdrive into is my Big Muff Triangle clone...
Hi Jack
Is that the BYOC that you made?
Regards Dr. Bob |
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jack
Platinum Member
USA
1418 Posts |
Posted - 02/13/2008 : 04:38:05
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Originally posted by Dr. Bob
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Originally posted by jack
My favorite fuzz by itself is still the DOD Classic Fuzz, and then my favorite fuzz using a overdrive into is my Big Muff Triangle clone...
Hi Jack
Is that the BYOC that you made?
Regards Dr. Bob
Yeah, I think its sort of a mash between the rams head and triangle version. They have a new version of the kit out, but I haven't built them yet. It has a mid scoop, hump, flat, and tone control bypass switch in it now.... |
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ML-2 the perfect Fuzz?
