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Paul Corusoe
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 Posted - 03/03/2006 : 22:23:35
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http://www.davidgilmour.com/island.htm
Man I love this guys music. Check out the promo video, he records on a classic house boat built in 1906 floating on the Thames. My set up is almost like that except with out the boat and the water and the...
well I got a BR1180 that's close, right?
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visserman
Platinum Member
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Posted - 03/03/2006 : 22:32:37
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Yes it is good, I have heard his new sinlge and like the fact that the song contains so many different sections. His overal sound is still the same but what can you say when it sounds that good.
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pawnshop_trash
Gold Member
USA
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Posted - 03/07/2006 : 21:21:51
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| I'm a crap lead guitar player, but David Gilmour's first solo in "Comfortably Numb" is one of a handful that I want to learn to play note-for-note.... |
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visserman
Platinum Member
1072 Posts |
Posted - 03/12/2006 : 18:03:47
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Here try this:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/events/davidgilmour/index.shtml
Right the thing with people like Gilmore, the Floyd and a host of others is that when you see [or hear] the perform, they play the songs in a very similar way as the recorded version. Great to show that you can do that, but really..........we would all expect them to do that eh, and let us face it, when you make a song yourself you can also play it back in a similar way during performances, no big deal really.............. But..........................is this performing? What about the idea of music being a reflection of the moment? I know this is a different take on music, and I guess I perfer that, love to hear people who will play their solos [even parts of the song] differently.
I really like Gilmore's tone, the songs, the solos ect. but do not dig the idea of playing them the same each time when you perform.
I enjoyed the gig [I listened to it on the radio] but at the same time it makes me feel that I do not need to see people like him live.
I also do not get the idea that he is rated so highly, when you listen back to the show via the "listen again" service you will hear traces of that in the presenters words. Yes Gilmore seems to be a nice guy, he can play ect. but I also feel he is very safe, and does not really take a few steps beyond the "What is required of him" on such a night as this gig.
To use Hendrix as an example, he was a complete opposite of this "safe-approach" Sometimes he had a bad tone, but played very inspiring notes, on other days he may have had a good tone, but his notes may not have been there, and he moved a lot around, really gave the audience a "something to watch" show, as opposed to "Something to listen to" show. Hendrix really lived what he was doing on stage,he became the little character he played and his music reflected that, he could sometimes be very agressive and desctructive, but sweet at the same time too. Gilmore may live his part too, but I cannot really hear [or see] this.
Right right right, not knocking Mr. Gilmore or expecting him to clown around, but he could play some different takes on his solos or parts, or even try some different tones.............................
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stahlhart
Platinum Member
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Posted - 03/14/2006 : 05:37:46
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I would have to agree -- but I think that a large part of it is driven by the core fan base, who probably want nothing less (or nothing more) than rote recitation of the studio work. The musician types in the crowd (e.g. us) would love to see some chances taken, but unfortunately we're in the minority.
John Bonham never played "Moby Dick" the same way twice -- I have a few dozen live recordings, and they're all quite different... as was the case for their entire show, there was a general framework that he worked with (use sticks for a while, switch to hand drumming, switch back to sticks), but he was more or less deciding right at that moment what he'd exactly do. And some nights were uninspired and dull, but then on the evenings when he was on it was just unbelievable. I guess that you can contrast that with the recitation, where it's consistent every night, but predictable.
C.K.
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visserman
Platinum Member
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Posted - 03/14/2006 : 14:07:22
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I did not know this about Bonham but have to say I have not seen any live shows of Led Zep, not even heard many live recordings as well.
Did Keith Moon not have a similar approach to his performances? I can imagine him doing so, and the rest of the Who, as they do not really come across as people who will play it on safe.
Can see your point of the audience and the hardcore fans, yes they would expect a near perfect show which would resemble the recorded version of the songs. |
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pawnshop_trash
Gold Member
USA
603 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2006 : 23:08:36
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| FYI, the new issue of Guitar World features an interview with David Gilmour (and a separate interview with Roger Waters!)... in the interview with Gilmour, he talks about his new solo album, and also addresses when/where he improvises at live shows. recommended if yer a Pink Floyd fan. |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 04/20/2006 : 09:40:45
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I'm a big fan of gilmours,i know where your all coming from about improvision vs 'winging it'but i have to say i listened to the concert as well,the intro to 'shine on' was totally different to the orginal and if you listen to the live shows ie.. pulse....you can hear differences,the soloes in time..money, another brick,the end of comfortably numb... i suppose with the floyd where there is so much going on a 'set' solo helps everyone know where they are including the people off stage,i think the floyd are more about the song than just jamming for 30 mins.. for the record i love it when clapton,hendrix,gary moore etc go off on a mad one.....but gilmour and people like him..ie(the edge,lifeson) who create 'soundscapes' on the guitar are equally valid and important..... |
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vostok4
Copper Member
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Posted - 04/21/2006 : 19:39:49
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Originally posted by visserman
Here try this:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/events/davidgilmour/index.shtml
Right the thing with people like Gilmore, the Floyd and a host of others is that when you see [or hear] the perform, they play the songs in a very similar way as the recorded version. Great to show that you can do that, but really..........we would all expect them to do that eh, and let us face it, when you make a song yourself you can also play it back in a similar way during performances, no big deal really.............. But..........................is this performing? What about the idea of music being a reflection of the moment? I know this is a different take on music, and I guess I perfer that, love to hear people who will play their solos [even parts of the song] differently.
I really like Gilmore's tone, the songs, the solos ect. but do not dig the idea of playing them the same each time when you perform.
I enjoyed the gig [I listened to it on the radio] but at the same time it makes me feel that I do not need to see people like him live.
I also do not get the idea that he is rated so highly, when you listen back to the show via the "listen again" service you will hear traces of that in the presenters words. Yes Gilmore seems to be a nice guy, he can play ect. but I also feel he is very safe, and does not really take a few steps beyond the "What is required of him" on such a night as this gig.
To use Hendrix as an example, he was a complete opposite of this "safe-approach" Sometimes he had a bad tone, but played very inspiring notes, on other days he may have had a good tone, but his notes may not have been there, and he moved a lot around, really gave the audience a "something to watch" show, as opposed to "Something to listen to" show. Hendrix really lived what he was doing on stage,he became the little character he played and his music reflected that, he could sometimes be very agressive and desctructive, but sweet at the same time too. Gilmore may live his part too, but I cannot really hear [or see] this.
Right right right, not knocking Mr. Gilmore or expecting him to clown around, but he could play some different takes on his solos or parts, or even try some different tones.............................
You obviously have never seen Floyd live. Weak. |
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StratoSphere
Double Platinum Member
Canada
2232 Posts |
Posted - 04/22/2006 : 08:23:01
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anyone know what songs of David Gilmore's that you can hear the MZ-2 in action? did he use this as his main chorus/delay sounds? or did they just plaster his name all over this pedal as a "marketing scheme?"
his new stuff is very good by the way |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 04/22/2006 : 15:11:21
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| Pretty sure you can hear the mz2 on the studio version of 'sorrow' i also read somewhere he used it on his 1984 solo release 'about face'.....hope this helps.... |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 04/22/2006 : 15:16:32
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| you could try this site www.gilmourish.com it has good infomation about his music and gear(especially boss pedals) from that time (mid eighties)...... |
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StratoSphere
Double Platinum Member
Canada
2232 Posts |
Posted - 04/22/2006 : 16:37:45
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| that site is very in depth of Gilmore's setup. interesting. thanks FRANZONI. |
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