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Pedalhead
Silver Member

USA
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Posted - 04/10/2006 :  19:05:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey anyone use a Neutrik pedal connector on there board? Here is a pic http://www.zzounds.com/item--CBI363IC. Are they shielded? Noisy? Better to go with patch cables? I don't ever see or head of anyone using these. Any info would be helpful.

phostenix
Gold Member

USA
754 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2006 :  20:33:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here's a link without the period at the end:

http://www.zzounds.com/item--CBI363IC

I've seen a lot of these type of connectors on ebay, but I've never used them. My guess is that there is no shielding since they are basically a solid connector, but I don't know for sure.


Grace and peace,

Steve
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phostenix
Gold Member

USA
754 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2006 :  20:42:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here are some ebay examples:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7404976511

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7404665691

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7406258381

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jack
Platinum Member

USA
1418 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2006 :  22:54:18  Show Profile  Visit jack's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I use something similar that I got from Musicians Friend for $1.99. As far as I can tell, no additional noise, however, I do not know if the particular type I bought are shielded. I think the theory is that it is a cleaner setup with less noise and better sound quality since there is no cord. Shorter connections = better signal.

However, I must point out that these only work well if you have pedals that have the same exact input/output jack height and in/out jacks that are on the sides of the pedal, otherwise you have to do alterations to pedal height or use a pacth cord if you are using pedals with in/outs somewhere other than on the sides. I have heard that these types of connectors will work with the Boss BCB 60, but not the smaller versions as there is not enough spacing between pedals on the smaller boss pedalboards. I like these types of adaptors because there is less clutter and less cables to worry about, but then again, patch cord are offer more flexibility and variations. If you have found a somewhat permanent pedal setup, go for the connectors (or pedal coupler as they are sometimes called), however if you are constantly changing your setup, go for patch cords, as you will have more setup options available if you need them.
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Goran
Double Platinum Member

Sweden
2203 Posts

Posted - 04/12/2006 :  11:46:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have used this kind of connectors and they are practical, but I stopped using them when I noticed that I had hurt an input-jack when hitting some pedal more than usual with my foot.
If you kick, by accident, one pedal in a row with these connectors the power of your kick will reach every pedal more or less.

Edited by - Goran on 04/12/2006 11:46:37
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stahlhart
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Posted - 04/12/2006 :  23:30:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's a little extra work to make a short patch with a couple of right-angle connectors, but jack and Goran are both correct -- the double male trick only works if the jacks line up exactly, and the rigidity adds stress at the connection points. Having that little bit of cable flexibility between the plugs seems to address both concerns, in my view.

C.K.
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jack
Platinum Member

USA
1418 Posts

Posted - 04/24/2006 :  23:37:02  Show Profile  Visit jack's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Just wanted to update that I am no longer using the 1-piece pedal couplers. I noticed the stress on the jacks as well, but initially thought maybe it was due to my pedalboard being an old fire alarm control panel box/housing, which doesn't offer any cushion inside and not really made for guitar pedals. I opted for some soldered patch cables as opposed to solderless since I found a good deal on a batch of cables.

On a somewhat related note, I'll have to put some pics of my pedalboard on the forum eventually, nothing complex, but unique in the fact that the box I use has punchouts on the sides, so I can run power and instrument cables to my pedals, and yet close and lock the lid to keep the morons I play with (good friends of mine, just morons when they mix playing music and drinking alcohol ) from accidentally stepping or spilling stuff on my pedals. The only negative is that the lid does not separate from the housing so if I had to step on a pedal it might be annoying, but luckily for the me, in the band I am in now, I can just plug into my NS-2 and Keeley MT-2, turn them on, shut the lid and not have to worry about my pedals getting screwed up. Sorry to rant, just don't have many people I can get technical with regarding music equipment.
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edpearson
Copper Member

USA
9 Posts

Posted - 05/06/2006 :  22:07:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I thought about purchasing those particular Neutrik connectors, too. However, I decided not to for two reasons: I have several pedals where these connectors wouldn't line up. Boss pedals probably would have worked since they're all a standard size, but I have boutique pedals that are non-standard sizes. Another reason is I was too worried how good those connectors actually sounded. I'm sure they're good, but I come from that school of thought where you're only as good as your weakest link. So if those connectors weren't so good, my signal would be, too. I use Mogami 6-inch right-angle-to-right-angle connectors. Using the R/A to R/A actually saves more space on my board because I'm able to get the pedals closer to each other than I would have w/ those Neutrik connectors in question. But mainly I use those because they're rock solid when it comes to preserving my signal. This guy seems to sell them at a fair rate: http://www.lavacable.com/mogami%20cable.htm

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Dingus
Silver Member

USA
472 Posts

Posted - 05/08/2006 :  16:22:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just for reference I actually have quite a few Boss pedals where these connectors would not line-up with eachother as far as the height the jack was located at on the pedal was a little off on some of them.
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