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JazzManRoper
Copper Member
USA
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 Posted - 08/26/2006 : 17:50:39
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Hello all, I'm new around these parts and I have some questions about Boss pedals and tone. Hope you guys can help me. I play a 1997 Gibson L5 Studio with a Roland JC 55 amp. I play in a jazzy/pop band, so my sound is mostly clean with a fat bottom, but I also play lead. The pedals I have right now are:
TU-2
GE-7
RV-3 (Digital Reverb/Delay)
BD-2
BF-3
-First question I have is, does anyone have suggestions for GE-7 EQ settings? I like a fat sound with the archtop, so I want to use the EQ to brighten up the tone just a touch. There are no examples in the directions like the other pedals, so if anyone had a link to sample settings I would really appreciate it.
-Secondly, I've read on here about "tone-sucking" pedals and I'm curious if there is a preferred way of ordering the pedals. The only distortion I use is a slight overdrive from the BD-2 for Steely Dan-esque stuff, so I don't have the EQ following it. Is there a particular way to order these pedals so that tone is optimal?
-Last, occasionally the tuner takes quite long to pick up the sounds off the 'buckers. Sometimes when the drummer is messing around and I'm trying to tune it takes VERY long. I have it first in line on my pedal board, (the guitar goes in the input), and I'm wondering if that makes a difference?
Sorry for the long post, but I have a lot of questions. You guys seem to know a lot about tone and effects so I come to you for help. If you guys want to check out the tunes and give me some tone suggestions, that would be awesome Thanks in advance!
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Edited by - JazzManRoper on 08/26/2006 20:12:20 |
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jack
Platinum Member
USA
1418 Posts |
Posted - 08/26/2006 : 18:05:46
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| First, welcome to the forum. As far as the TU-2, sometimes its better to tune up with the neck pick up or possibly try the 12th fret harmonic. |
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JazzManRoper
Copper Member
USA
28 Posts |
Posted - 08/26/2006 : 18:13:20
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Originally posted by jack
First, welcome to the forum. As far as the TU-2, sometimes its better to tune up with the neck pick up or possibly try the 12th fret harmonic.
Thanks man! Do you think it matters where the tuner is on the effect line? Should it be before everything else or after? |
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Basstyra
Gold Member
France
523 Posts |
Posted - 08/26/2006 : 18:48:10
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Welcome ! 
The TU-2 is a digital tuner. As with every digital tuner, trying to tune with the 12th fret harmonic will allways give better results, as the not obtained is way more "pure", ie with less harmonic contents which can disturb the tuner. Elinimating the 7th fret harmonic, for example, which is not the same note. |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 08/26/2006 : 19:06:57
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welcome...when you are tuning up as jack said use the neck pickup and try turning the tone pot down halfway... an old guitar repairer showed this to me years ago and its always worked for me...as far as arranging your pedals if it was me i would go...tu2,bd2,ge7,bf3,and then the rv3..... |
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JazzManRoper
Copper Member
USA
28 Posts |
Posted - 08/26/2006 : 19:12:20
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Originally posted by FRANZONI
welcome...when you are tuning up as jack said use the neck pickup and try turning the tone pot down halfway... an old guitar repairer showed this to me years ago and its always worked for me...as far as arranging your pedals if it was me i would go...tu2,bd2,ge7,bf3,and then the rv3.....
Sounds good, I'll try that.
But should I set the pedals up that way even though I don't use the BD-2 in every song? I leave the EQ on all the time, and I really only use the BD-2 on leads. Would that make a difference?
Also, any opinions on the NS-2 or AC-3? I need a 6th pedal for my board  and I'm trying to figure out which one would fit. There's some mild noise from the amp itself and I'm wondering how effective the NS-2 really is. Thanks. |
Edited by - JazzManRoper on 08/26/2006 19:17:05 |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 08/26/2006 : 19:32:09
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| if the ge7 is on all the time you would probaly better leaving in front of the bd2 as this is your 'normal' guitar sound..as for the ns2 and ac3 ..personally i'm not to pushed about noise gates as they can kill feedback and sustain as for the ac3 i don't have any experience that pedal as i already bring 2 electrics,1 acoustic and a mandolin to most gigs...!!!!two of my favourite pedals are my tr2 tremolo and my dd3 delay...i also use a ls2 to loop some pedals out of my signal path until required...check out controlfreak's thread 'pedalboards' i posted a pic there..... |
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JazzManRoper
Copper Member
USA
28 Posts |
Posted - 08/26/2006 : 19:35:32
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Originally posted by FRANZONI
if the ge7 is on all the time you would probaly better leaving in front of the bd2 as this is your 'normal' guitar sound..as for the ns2 and ac3 ..personally i'm not to pushed about noise gates as they can kill feedback and sustain as for the ac3 i don't have any experience that pedal as i already bring 2 electrics,1 acoustic and a mandolin to most gigs...!!!!two of my favourite pedals are my tr2 tremolo and my dd3 delay...i also use a ls2 to loop some pedals out of my signal path until required...check out controlfreak's thread 'pedalboards' i posted a pic there.....
The Tremolo seems limited to me. What do you find that you use it for? |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 08/26/2006 : 19:56:47
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| sounds great on slide with a bit of overdrive ala ry cooder of those 50's moments ie pulp fiction link wray,dick dale..etc i also found a use for it on some of our own stuff as the built in tremolo in my amp wasn't really doing it for me..... |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 08/26/2006 : 19:59:35
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| if your bf3 is stereo you could put it at the end and run two amps off it i do that with my ch1 and i love the spread of sound... |
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JazzManRoper
Copper Member
USA
28 Posts |
Posted - 08/26/2006 : 20:05:45
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I'll check out the tremolo...thanks.
Yeah, it has stereo outputs but unfortunately I only have one amp. |
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starr36
Platinum Member
Canada
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Posted - 08/28/2006 : 03:33:17
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| Not to be a bother, but NEVER tune using harmonics. I read a book on guitar setup by one of the long running Guitar PLayer magazing, and he basically said that if you start with Low E harmonic on 6th string, you are out about 2 cents each string,and thus from top to bottom you are 12 cents off, although to your ears and tuner you re on. I'll take the book out of the library again, but he really said that harmonic tuing is a really really bad practice. I know slighly off topic, but that's what a guy who custom setups guitars for over 30 years said. What the heck to I know? |
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