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ace
Bronze Member
Netherlands
77 Posts |
 Posted - 03/06/2006 : 15:03:52
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| Is there any boss pedal that soundwise comes close to a electro harmonix Big Muff ? |
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stahlhart
Platinum Member
1318 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2006 : 19:20:25
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Having heard both, I'd have to say a MIJ DS-1 is pretty close (at least to the op-amp version of the Big Muff, which was what I had).
C.K.
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pawnshop_trash
Gold Member
USA
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Posted - 03/06/2006 : 19:36:53
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I could have sworn I read somewhere that the PW-2 was loosely based on a Big Muff. however, I can't recall where I read that, so don't quote me. plus, I don't have a Big Muff, so I can't say how close any Boss pedal comes to it.
FWIW, supposedly the FZ-2's Fuzz 1 setting is based on a Univox Superfuzz, and the FZ-3 is based on a Dallas/Artbiter Fuzz Face. |
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arcanon1313
Silver Member
USA
414 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2006 : 22:25:36
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| Try a DF-2. It comes close to the sound of a big muff, and has the added feedback effect. |
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Dingus
Silver Member
USA
472 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2006 : 14:39:03
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| the OD-20 has a muff setting :) I just picked one up for $80 at the local pawnshop and was pleasantly suprised by how well that box performs. |
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phostenix
Gold Member
USA
754 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2006 : 15:51:31
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I assume the OD-20 uses the same COSM model of the Big Muff as the ME-50 I own. I've found the models of the DS-1 & the Tubescreamer to be very close to the real pedals, so I compared the Bigg Muff model to a real MIJ DS-1 & DF-2 last night. The Muff is more "muff"led. The lower frequencies are more buzzy (fuzzy) than either of the Boss pedals. The DF-2 has a more aggressive sounding distortion & little less mids than the DS-1. So, the DF-2 gets closer to the distortion sound of the Muff model, but the Muff has a little more mid honk. The Muff also has less high end.
If you're looking for that fuzz sound, especially on the low strings, I couldn't get that out of the DS-1 or the DF-2.
Grace and peace,
Steve
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ace
Bronze Member
Netherlands
77 Posts |
Posted - 03/08/2006 : 11:59:01
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Thanx for all the replies. I wanna use it for bass so im probably best off with a bif muff in that case...thanx for all the help though
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Craig
Copper Member
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Posted - 04/17/2006 : 02:21:30
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| A USA Big Muff is my ONLY pedal that is not Boss. Nothing Compares imo. I also think Boss NEEDS to have at least 1 fuzz pedal in production. |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 04/17/2006 : 11:33:05
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| check out the fz3,i think pawnshop trash is right,its probaly more like a fuzzface than a big muff but imho it has a cool sound all of its own,i use it with the fuzz at about 60%,anymore and you think your speakers are going to pop out of your amp...!!! very under estimated pedal.... |
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StratoSphere
Double Platinum Member
Canada
2232 Posts |
Posted - 04/17/2006 : 17:41:16
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| ya the big muff has a wide array of tones. i would say the df-2 would cover the lower tones, and the fz3 would cover the higher tones. although my big muff is the Black Russian version |
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ben delay
Copper Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/18/2006 : 14:54:55
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| the HM 2i s a real nice fuzz pedal, probably the closest boss product ive heard to muff, the fact thats its called 'heavy metal' is so mis leading |
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bosshog
Silver Member
Canada
493 Posts |
Posted - 06/16/2006 : 15:52:46
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I have a Made in NYC Big Muff and I can't get the thing to sound acceptable and coherent. I am trying to tame the beast....any suggestions?
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SirJackdeFuzz
Bronze Member
South Africa
83 Posts |
Posted - 06/16/2006 : 18:27:31
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'Albie', i had the same problem with mine.
The easiest, and the cheapest way is . . . . drum roll . . . .
. . . to roll off the vol. on my guitars.
Yes it sounds like i'm just saying it to say something, but it work beautifully.
Roll back on your guitar vol. & add (for the loss of) vol. on the amp.
My LP vol on 5 (half way), and the Big Muff sustain on 8 o'clock, and tone well, any where you like it.
It is PERFECT for my sound - give it a try !!!
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jack
Platinum Member
USA
1418 Posts |
Posted - 06/16/2006 : 21:25:45
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| Yeah, I would try what SirJack says because before I had my MT-2 modded, I could run my guitar volume knobs (its an old Hohner L75 [LP copy])at 10 with no feedback and a good sound. After modding, I guess the pedal is putting out more signal, and initially with my guitar volumes dimed out I got a lot of feed back and the tone sounded bad. I rolled back both volumes on my guitar to about the 3-5 range, and now the balance is right, the guitar sounds great, and actually louder than before the mod and my volumes at 10. |
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mattpas
Bronze Member
USA
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Posted - 06/17/2006 : 03:50:02
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| I would have to say the PW-2 Power Driver is very close to a big muff. It gives you the big fuzz sound especially with leads and it has that Big Muff broken up kind fuzz thing going on. |
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pawnshop_trash
Gold Member
USA
603 Posts |
Posted - 10/10/2006 : 06:19:41
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after recently acquiring a 'reissue' Electro-Harmonix Little Big Muff (supposedly, the same circuit used in the NYC Big Muff), I decided to have a 'shootout' comparing it to the Boss PW-2 and ProCo's 'Vintage Rat' (reissue)....
the test instruments were a Fender Mustang-type guitar with Duncan Vintage Staggered (neck) and Duncan Hot Rails for Strat (bridge) pickups, in standard tuning; and a set-neck "Less" Paul-type guitar with a Duncan SH-5 Custom bridge pickup (somewhere between a PAF and a Duncan JB humbucker in output), tuned down 1.5 steps (to C#). the test amp was a Fender-type tube head set to a loud but very clean sound, with reverb, driving a straight-front 4x12 cab loaded with Celestions. monster cables were used along with original-issue Boss BCB-60 and BCB-6 patch cords for bonus snootiness.
comparing the distortion offered by each pedal, all three were in the same ballpark: gritty, harshly-clipped distortion, more like 'crunchy' vs. 'creamy' (e.g., a MIJ SD-1) peanut butter. the Rat was closest to a true fuzz pedal, at least in terms of it 'farting out' and losing note clarity when picked hard, but the LBM and PW-2 were close to each other in timbre. to my ears, the neck single coil of the Mustang-esque guitar sounded best through the Big Muff (instant Mudhoney guitar tone).
comparing output gain, the PW-2 has about the same perceived gain as the 'Vintage Rat', but the Little Big Muff has considerably more perceived gain. my biggest knock against the PW-2 was a perceived drop in bass output relative to the Little Big Muff, especially with the 'baritone' guitar. however, in standard tuning the PW-2 was able to get a sound about as fat as either the Rat or the LBM, but it took some tweaking of the PW-2's tone controls. both the Rat and the LBM have just one tone control, so it's a bit easier (or quicker, at least) to find a good sound.
finally, since higher gain = more bass, it is entirely possible that the higher gain structure of the Little Big Muff is responsible for its improved bass response. if I had to choose one to gig with, I would probably choose the LBM, if only because of the relative rarity and minty-clean condition of my PW-2. and as always, this is just the opinion of some guy on the internet; YMMV.
*** edits: minor typos corrected, minor detail (SH-5) added. |
Edited by - pawnshop_trash on 10/11/2006 16:13:04 |
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