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UNLEADED
Copper Member
Canada
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 Posted - 09/12/2008 : 21:55:30
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| In what order do I put the distortion,chorus,delay,reverb,etc, in front of my tube amp.What is the best chain signal path for Boss pedals. |
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Leeroyfunk
Silver Member
United Kingdom
400 Posts |
Posted - 09/12/2008 : 22:51:55
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Originally posted by UNLEADED
In what order do I put the distortion,chorus,delay,reverb,etc, in front of my tube amp.What is the best chain signal path for Boss pedals.
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Platinum Member
Canada
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 09/13/2008 : 18:30:51
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Welcome to the forum... Leeroyfunk is correct in that is the way most players including myself would do it..... but like everything else don't be afraid to experiment.... |
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PaulH
Gold Member
535 Posts |
Posted - 09/13/2008 : 21:04:25
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Wether it's stomp boxes, or multi-rack effects, I always tend to go:
Compression/Wah > Distortion > Modulation (Chorus/Falnger/Phaser etc.) > Volume pedal > Delay > Reverb > Clean amp.
I'd also tend to put the modulation & delay in the amp's effects loop, provided it's a series loop.
Again, if it's a channel switching amp, I may not bother with distortion, but still put the modulation & delay in the amp's serial effects loop. |
Edited by - PaulH on 09/13/2008 21:06:22 |
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Tele_Man
Bronze Member
USA
86 Posts |
Posted - 09/14/2008 : 05:01:06
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provided it's a series loop
How would I know if my effects loop is serial or parallel? If the literature that came with my amp doesn't say, should I assume one over the other? I play through a Beavy Bandit 112, by the way.
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DarrinPA
Silver Member
USA
221 Posts |
Posted - 09/14/2008 : 07:11:16
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Originally posted by PaulH
Wether it's stomp boxes, or multi-rack effects, I always tend to go:
Compression/Wah > Distortion > Modulation (Chorus/Falnger/Phaser etc.) > Volume pedal > Delay > Reverb > Clean amp.
Actually Volume pedals are also quite often used as a first pedal to go from light gain to full gain, almost like two distortion channels. |
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Leeroyfunk
Silver Member
United Kingdom
400 Posts |
Posted - 09/14/2008 : 10:52:01
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Originally posted by Tele_Man
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provided it's a series loop
How would I know if my effects loop is serial or parallel? If the literature that came with my amp doesn't say, should I assume one over the other? I play through a Beavy Bandit 112, by the way.
Thanks
It will be a series loop on a Bandit. Most amps have series loops (i.e. ALL the signal from the preamp goes through the loop, then on to the power amp), parallel loops are a bit more specialised, and tend to have a "mix" control to determine how much preamp signal goes through the loop, and how much bypasses the loop and goes direct to the power amp. |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 09/14/2008 : 17:02:39
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| There is also a school of thought that modulation effects such as flangers,chorus leslie simulator effects are better off in a serial loop rather than a parallel loop,because parallel loops mix the straight signal with the effected one they can cause phase problems with the modulation effects.... as far as i know if you set a parallel loops mix control to 100% wet it acts in the same way as a serial loop.... |
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PaulH
Gold Member
535 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2008 : 00:20:22
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Best way to test if a loop is series is stick a volume pedal in it.
Volume of zero on the pedal, should result in no output from the amp if theloop is serial.
In a parallel loop there will still be some sound output from the amp as the amp signal is unaffected by whatever goes in the loop. |
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Leeroyfunk
Silver Member
United Kingdom
400 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2008 : 01:12:07
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Originally posted by FRANZONI
parallel loops mix the straight signal with the effected one they can cause phase problems with the modulation effects.... as far as i know if you set a parallel loops mix control to 100% wet it acts in the same way as a serial loop....
I have never really understood the potential applications of a parallel loop: Most effects have some sort of wet/dry balance, mix, depth or other level-type control, and the ones that don't (OD/fuzz/distortion etc) you wouldn't want to put in a loop anyway. What are they for? |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2008 : 03:23:40
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Originally posted by Leeroyfunk
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Originally posted by FRANZONI
parallel loops mix the straight signal with the effected one they can cause phase problems with the modulation effects.... as far as i know if you set a parallel loops mix control to 100% wet it acts in the same way as a serial loop....
I have never really understood the potential applications of a parallel loop: Most effects have some sort of wet/dry balance, mix, depth or other level-type control, and the ones that don't (OD/fuzz/distortion etc) you wouldn't want to put in a loop anyway. What are they for?
I'm not sure.. .and i know that i've found the dynacord leslie sim works best in a serial loop.i think some players a while back wanted more of a 'natural' sound with a bit of effect so the parallel loop was a idea floated around for a while...the best way around this i've seen is larry carltons setup..miking the amp through a small P.A. on stage and putting the effects in the mixer after the mic,plus you have a acoustic amp ready to go as well with this setup,just turn the guitar amp off.... ....and the effects are true stereo.. |
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