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Radioman
Copper Member
Australia
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 Posted - 10/31/2005 : 02:28:43
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I have a chance to buy those BOSS pedals. What's your view? Are they useful and how different do they sound? Would you recommend to buy both? Thanks  |
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stahlhart
Platinum Member
1318 Posts |
Posted - 10/31/2005 : 04:31:35
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Dimension D isn't a pedal; it's rack mounted...
Dimensioning is much like chorus, only with less pitch bending (vibrato).
C.K.
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Radioman
Copper Member
Australia
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Posted - 10/31/2005 : 08:11:25
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| Thanks for your reply. There is a pedal called Digital Dimension which was later renamed to Digital Space-D. |
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bossarea
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/31/2005 : 09:17:52
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The DC-3 was produced under the 2 names you mention but it was not renamed to Digital Space-D. This was the name used in Japan during parts of its lifetime (beginning or end, I don't know). In the rest of the world it was always called Digital Dimension.
The DC-2 is analog while the DC-3 is a digital chorus. I will recommend the DC-3 but sound is like ice cream. We all have different tastes so you will need to try them out. |
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Radioman
Copper Member
Australia
8 Posts |
Posted - 10/31/2005 : 11:29:35
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| Thanks for your help. Btw. thanks for a great forum. |
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stahlhart
Platinum Member
1318 Posts |
Posted - 10/31/2005 : 16:10:52
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I have the DC-3, and like it, but I've never had a DC-2 so I've never had a chance to compare them.
My gut feeling is that I'd prefer analog dimensioning to digital, but one thing I'm not sure about is how the DC-2 is limited to four presets by buttons, as opposed to continuously variable controls, as on the DC-3. But I guess that those four presets are pretty much everything you'd want to get out of the DC-2, from what I've read.
I also have a CE-2. I've been experimenting with using the DC-3 to develop a thicker chorus sound without the degree of pitch bending you'd get if you tried to get the same depth from the CE-2 alone.
C.K.
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stahlhart
Platinum Member
1318 Posts |
Posted - 10/31/2005 : 16:12:34
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I apologize for the confusion between the Dimension-D and the Digital Space-D, BTW... 
C.K.
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visserman
Platinum Member
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Posted - 11/02/2005 : 14:09:03
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stahlhart: Try putting the DC-3 infront of a CE-2 and use the rate and depth knob of the CE-2, so the DC-3 functions more as an overal soundsculptor, but you control it with the CE-2.
If you have one of the Boss delays [or a PS-3] you could try doing the same: create a chorus sound from a delaypedal, run its signal in the CE-2 to thicken it up a bit, and there you go: Customised Chorus a la Carte |
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stahlhart
Platinum Member
1318 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2005 : 16:28:14
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That's pretty much what I've been trying to achieve -- although offhand now I can't remember last time if I had the CE-2 into the DC-3, or vice-versa. I'll try it out the way you've outlined here; thanks for the suggestions...
What would you recommend as a starting point for the DC-3's control settings?
C.K.
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visserman
Platinum Member
1072 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2005 : 16:33:54
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Depends a little on your taste, as I am posting from a public library I do not have the pedal around me here, so have to give you some ideas on settings later.
Try also using the two outs on the DC-3, although I have to say, with this pedal it does not seem to matter that much.
In case you do not have two amps you could use an Y-box [2 ins, 1 out] by doing so you still get the benefit of the two outputs.
The LS-2 works perfecly as an Y-box and can do a lot more too. |
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Plush Pile
Bronze Member
Australia
93 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2005 : 05:38:29
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Originally posted by visserman
In case you do not have two amps you could use an Y-box [2 ins, 1 out] by doing so you still get the benefit of the two outputs.
Wouldn't that just turn it back into a mono signal?
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Goran
Double Platinum Member
Sweden
2203 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2005 : 11:03:00
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| I�m buying a DC-2 in a couple of hours for about $120! |
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visserman
Platinum Member
1072 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2005 : 13:41:30
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quote:
Originally posted by Plush Pile
quote:
Originally posted by visserman
In case you do not have two amps you could use an Y-box [2 ins, 1 out] by doing so you still get the benefit of the two outputs.
Wouldn't that just turn it back into a mono signal?
It does, you are right, so you do need a box with two ins and two outs, or a mixer of some sort. |
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visserman
Platinum Member
1072 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2005 : 14:07:22
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Originally posted by stahlhart
That's pretty much what I've been trying to achieve -- although offhand now I can't remember last time if I had the CE-2 into the DC-3, or vice-versa. I'll try it out the way you've outlined here; thanks for the suggestions...
What would you recommend as a starting point for the DC-3's control settings?
C.K.
Stahlhart, I experimented with set-ups last night, thinking about your idea: FAttening up chorus sound of DC-3 without getting the wobbly sound.
Okay, well I did get my chorus sound from a PS-3 [gives clean chorus as well, so you can compare this sound to the DC-3--Have a DC-3 as well, but not tried it in this way yet TIME!!!!---]
Used second chorus unit, a CE-1 [ Do not have a CE-2, but CE-1 is similar--So I have been told......--]
Thinking behind all this was: Get the clean chorus sound from the PS-3, thicken up signal through CE-1. On the CE-1 I just got a chorus sound without too much movement, just nice and thick, not wobbly.
I think you use a CE-2 eh? You just want a fat chorus sound without the wobble eh? So set the rate at a very slow speed, and the depth totally opposite so the effect is very noticeable. Overal this pedal will just colour your sound, but the movement will come from your DC-3.
Okay I used a complex signalpath to thicken up the whole lot, here it is:
Gtr.-->PS-3-->CE-1------>LS-2
-->EQ-->EH-2-->LS-2-------->RV-5-->DD6-->Amp 1
--------> Amp2
Notes: PS-3 does have two outputs.
The EQ after PS-3 warms up the digital sound.
EH-2 acts as final EQ to overal sound, very easy for tweaking!
LS-2 has two inputs, so this was my little mixer in this setup.
Used straight sound on amp 2.
Delayed sound on Amp1.
Using the Reverb and the Delay adds to fatting up of sound.
I agree this patch is complex, and I mainly do these kind of set-ups at home, in a studio-environment. Will use the set-up for only a little part of a song. Setting up patch usually takes longer than recording the actual sound!
The kind of pedals or other gear are not really that important as you can achieve similar results with different kind of gear, what matters are the motives behind your set-up, and these are the ones I tried to explain here. Hope it all made some kind of sense to you.
Play around and have fun.
cheers.
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stahlhart
Platinum Member
1318 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2005 : 21:56:48
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Visserman:
Thanks very much for the detailed suggestions!
I think that you're going to be correct about applying the dimensioning to the chorus, as opposed to the other way around, just adding a little bit to the CE-2 with the DC-3.
I'll see what I come up with, to that end...
C.K.
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visserman
Platinum Member
1072 Posts |
Posted - 11/04/2005 : 13:47:17
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Yep Stahlhart, just try some things and see if you like the sound, just let us know what you discovered.
cheers. |
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Dimension-C / Dimension-D
