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tony
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/10/2008 :  20:04:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just wondering what your thoughts are on this can of worms, particularly with analogue delay - with digital (if memory serves) it makes less difference. It seems to be accepted practice for distortion to go before delay but I always find I much prefer it after - particularly with my DM 2. Distortion in just seems to mush out, whereas on the output it sounds very precise and generally amazing. In my world, anyway.

Edited by - tony on 09/10/2008 20:04:50

Heart and Soul
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USA
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Posted - 09/10/2008 :  22:35:32  Show Profile  Visit Heart and Soul's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i like both..i have a dd-20 as my first pedal so i can manipulate loops and delay stuff in real time with all my other effects but i have a dd-3 later in the chain for consistency...it's a nice mix though...

both ways have their good/bad points...so it's all about what you're in the mood for...
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Tele_Man
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Posted - 09/10/2008 :  23:20:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
but I always find I much prefer it after


Well I'd say you've answered your own question. If it sounds better to you after the delay, then that's where you should put it.
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PaulH
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Posted - 09/10/2008 :  23:56:45  Show Profile  Visit PaulH's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I prefer everything (apart from Reverb) before delay.
That way I can bring sounds in and out of the delay patterns.
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pawnshop_trash
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Posted - 09/11/2008 :  00:12:48  Show Profile  Visit pawnshop_trash's Homepage  Reply with Quote
thanks, I'll have to try that... I've always placed dirt before delay, and never tried the other way around (because that's the "wrong" way). but as you allude, ultimately your ears alone decide what is "right".

and FWIW, I prefer to run some modulation effects (e.g., flangers, but not chorus) before distortion.

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leonard d rock
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Philippines
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Posted - 09/11/2008 :  06:37:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
my delay comes after distortion and overdrive, that way the dirt sound can be delayed. chorus comes after delay, so i can have the distorted and delayed sound sent out to stereo from the ch-1's outs if i want. i think its the most noise-free and great sounding sequence of efx.

LDR
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Goran
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Sweden
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Posted - 09/11/2008 :  07:13:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Heart and Soul

i like both..i have a dd-20 as my first pedal so i can manipulate loops and delay stuff in real time with all my other effects but i have a dd-3 later in the chain for consistency...it's a nice mix though...

both ways have their good/bad points...so it's all about what you're in the mood for...


That�s a good point, when playing experimental I sometimes put one delay before everything and one just before reverb (if used, the last pedal before amp).
For �general� use putting delay at the end of the chain is most preferable.
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visserman
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Posted - 09/11/2008 :  13:09:49  Show Profile  Visit visserman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It depends on the quality of your delay, and maybe you have a point about analogue delays.

I have a Electro Harmonix Memory Man, it is one of the first ones, I guess '77 or '78. This delay distorts very quickly, some folks just like it as a preamp.

I use this one in the loop of the LS-2, and it goes first in the signal chain, in this way it sounds clean and clear.

With the DD-2, DD-5 and DD-6 I just use them last because they do not suffer from such issues.

The DM-2? Fine as last in the chain as well.

I have a DOD reverb, and that one is similar as the Electro Harmonix, as it suffers from distortion, so again this one is first in the chain. I know, very unusual for a reverb to go first, but in this way it seems to be much clearer.

Overal this thing is a quality issue I believe. The better your delay [or reverb] the less problems with distortion and mush.

Loops can help cleaning things up as well, so it could be the loop in your amp or something like the LS-2.
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