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pmike
Copper Member

Belgium
20 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2006 :  01:29:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi, I'm currently looking for a good delay pedal. So in the whole DD-2/DD-3 vc DD-5 and DD-6 hipe...

is the RDD-10 mini rack a good delay and is it the same as the DD2/3 ? Altough it is limited till 400ms delay (which I might find a tad too short, however it has extra controls that the pedal don't have. people seem to swear by DD2/3 (and maybe indirectly RDD-x series), but for example, the DD-6 had better capacitors, 16 bit sampling etc.

I really don't know it anymore

Thx 4 your input :)

StratoSphere
Double Platinum Member

Canada
2232 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2006 :  03:31:16  Show Profile  Send StratoSphere an AOL message  Click to see StratoSphere's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
hi pmike, welcome to the board. i own a RDD-10, a DD2 and a DD5. i would say that it depends on what you want. most players seem to be happy with a DD3. i would say that its the "standard" delay pedal

ill start with the DD-2. i actually use this as a reverb or short slapback type sound. as its delay time just isnt too good by todays modern delays. i dont find the sound to differ much from the DD5.

onto the RDD-10. i love this thing. the modulation feature gets me twisting knobs for hours amazed by the sounds. out of the three, this is the best delay, but i am way too picky and cant get over the fact that it is rack gear and not compact. overall the sound quality is wonderful, but i cant help but see it as a toy.

the DD5 is my main delay. it has good reverb/slapback, solid medium (800 - 1000), and can go up to 2 seconds. it even has extra features such as the reverse mode which is pretty neat.it is perfect for me as the DD3 is not quite enough, and the DD6 has a few too many bells and whistles for my liking.

hope this helps. good luck
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starr36
Platinum Member

Canada
1172 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2006 :  07:59:43  Show Profile  Visit starr36's Homepage  Reply with Quote
stratosphere:

What about the tone of the pedals you describe vs the rack unit?
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HAGALAZ
Silver Member

Australia
161 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2006 :  09:54:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hi mate
In My opinion go with the DD3
I have all the micro rack delays and all the compact pedal delays including the DM-2 and 3!!!! The best is the DD3 honestly. The DD6 has an annoying tempo goodie and I have a habit of holding my foot on the pedal which can get messy. Sound wise the compacts are quieter but you can run a NS for the micros but still a DD3 all the way for me!!!
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controlfreak
Silver Member

Ireland
337 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2006 :  10:50:02  Show Profile  Visit controlfreak's Homepage  Reply with Quote
ya, i've a big chip DD-3 and it's just a great pedal. you won't be dissapointed.

delay pedals are one of those strange beasts that the mad features some of them have are great to fook around with but at the end of the day you want one that u can rely on and sounds good and that's the DD-3 man
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pmike
Copper Member

Belgium
20 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2006 :  10:58:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi StratoSphere, thx for your welcome and compasrisson. I'm currently looking at used DD-5, DD-6 ad RDD-10, so no choice for a DD-3 Hagalaz ;)

I'm not gonna use things like a reverse. The main thing I'm looking for is a good delay for a nice fluid solo sound. A good hold is nice for practising, so the the DD-6 wins for me.

How about the max delay time of 400ms on the RDD-10 StratoSphere ? I'm staring to experience the RDD-10 as a good second delay an not yer primary ;)
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HAGALAZ
Silver Member

Australia
161 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2006 :  12:57:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yep, DD6 is good also, It has loooong delay times as well as the normal dd3 times and all the reverse etc etc, it is a good delay, just i prefer the dd3. u wont be disapointed with a dd6 either mate.
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Goran
Double Platinum Member

Sweden
2203 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2006 :  13:21:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What I don�t like about DD-6 is that you can�t have the delay-tails feedbacking for ever, I like to have this when I�m playing loops ala Robert Fripp.
DD-20 has this function, and for my money this by far is the best Boss delay ever produced.
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pmike
Copper Member

Belgium
20 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2006 :  13:30:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
indeed controlefreak, in the end, you just want a good delay that enrichens your tone. and probalby once set up right, I don't thing you would touch it a lot, unless you're a real experimental dude.

isn't the RDD-10 the same as the dd-2/3 ? maybe it has the big chip as well since back then these miniracks were "pro" material no ?

Everlasting delay-tails is something I'm not gonna use as well Goran, I'm sure after 20 secs the DD will vommit out every mistake i made
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StratoSphere
Double Platinum Member

Canada
2232 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2006 :  13:37:46  Show Profile  Send StratoSphere an AOL message  Click to see StratoSphere's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
pmike, if you are just going to use it for a straight forward delay, and hold, i wouldnt go with a RDD-10. like i said its more of a fun pedal. i would recomend one of the DD series for sure. i dont know how familiar you are with Boss products, but if its hold time that youre after, there are some great loop station stations out there.(RC2).
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pmike
Copper Member

Belgium
20 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2006 :  14:04:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
okay StratoSphere, then I think a DD will do it. a good standard delay sound is the main thing. the DD-6's 5.2s loop is far better than the DD-5's 2s and will suffice for me I think. If I want to do some heavier loop stuff or play-along things I'll just do it with my computer. I prefer simple and straightforward controles.

I used to have rack gear, but it was a hell to tweak. If I look at a DD-20 it looks tempting, but prob I'm not gonna use 50% of the thing, even half of the DD-6 I won't be using hehe. don't look at the lights aaaarg too tempting.
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diggum12
Silver Member

USA
282 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2006 :  16:59:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey Pmike! Welcome to the forum.

Keep in mind the DD-5 has the Tap Tempo jack. As stated above, the DD-6 does not have that jack and you must press the pedal for 2 seconds before you can start tapping out your tempo.

Personally, I shelved my DD-3 (which I'll never sell) and DD-6 (which I was glad to sell) for the DD-20! It's only a few bucks more than a DD-6 and is far superior.
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pmike
Copper Member

Belgium
20 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2006 :  17:50:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi diggum. thx ;)

I try to use simple fx these days. I use a GT3, and it's delay really sounds bad to me. I can buy a DD-6 used half the price of a new DD-20. I'm not gonna buy fx new anymore becasue they degrade like hell. did your DD-20 sounded really that better than a DD-6 when it comes to simple every day delay stuff ?
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diggum12
Silver Member

USA
282 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2006 :  21:44:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good question. Short answer: yes! I'm very impressed with it. In fact, I think it sounds fantastic. Being able to set the tone to roll off w/ each repeat or just select a standard delay is so helpful. I actually use/scroll through the presets during play. The tap tempo jack is a must for me. Bigger knobs, to me, mean easier tweaking. Plus a 23 second looper!

A new DD-6 is what, $159??? A new DD-20 is $179.99 at MF.
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Goran
Double Platinum Member

Sweden
2203 Posts

Posted - 08/30/2006 :  07:23:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If you have the possibility to choose between DD-6 and DD-20 go for DD-20. It�s much more versatile, the memories are very useful to name a few things.
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pmike
Copper Member

Belgium
20 Posts

Posted - 08/30/2006 :  15:46:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In fact, I really need a delay as simple as possible. So I'm starting to think a DD-3 will do fine and I'm never going to use all these fancy extras even the DD-5 or DD-6 offer. Just a richer solo sound, that's it. I'm not willing to spend more than 100-120$ on a simple effect. certainly not new ones because they lose value like hell. I could get my hands on a DD-3, but for shure a non-big chip one. still people find it sounding beter than all the newer ones, but what I really don't get is that it is 12bit compared to dd-5 16bits and dd-6 24bits. how can a 12-bit effect not alter your sound ??? ;) I guess it's a "don't look at the freakin' numbers and just "listen" to the pedal"-thing, but still ;) (aaaarg, don't know it anymore)
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