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scarling
Copper Member
USA
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 Posted - 07/04/2005 : 06:03:55
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quick question
i keep hearing how this pedal is analog
except ones manufacuted after 2001 or something along those lines
i recently bought a used one is there anyway to tell the difference
between the analog and the digital ones?,if i were to open up the pedal perhaps.
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bossarea
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/04/2005 : 10:16:30
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As far as I know they're all analog.
Where did you hear that the design has changed? It may be minor changes but a big change like analog to digital would not happen without giving the pedal a completely new name. |
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arcanon1313
Silver Member
USA
414 Posts |
Posted - 07/04/2005 : 20:56:45
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I've heard ppl on harmony central talk about opening their CE-5's and seeing a digital chip inside instead of the required BBD's. I do know that the CH-1 is an analog pedal, but I've also heard that after 2002 the CE-5 became digital. I have had a chance to test the difference in sound, and the difference is slight. The older of the two is a little thicker and warmer, the new one was a little more brittle but still thick. a good useable chorus (even if it is digital). They might have upgraded the specs to use both the old CE-5 board, and use some of the stuff that they learned with the DC-3. It's just a theory though.   |
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boss freak
Gold Member
USA
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Posted - 07/04/2005 : 22:35:07
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I'm not sure about the CH1 or CE5. I haven't ever felt the urge to buy either one due to the fact that I have more than enough chorus pedals (Boss and others) to last beyond a lifetime. I don't have very many facts about these two pedals. I wish I had a definitive answer.  |
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bossarea
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
3652 Posts |
Posted - 07/04/2005 : 23:29:57
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I just ordered a CE-5.
I'll guess I'll have to open it up and see what's inside right away. It might not be so easy to determine anything just by looking at the pedal but I'll give it a try. |
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arcanon1313
Silver Member
USA
414 Posts |
Posted - 07/05/2005 : 00:17:43
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| Have fun with it! Let us know what the outcome is on that theory. |
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bossarea
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
3652 Posts |
Posted - 07/13/2005 : 22:37:46
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Ok, I've opened up my brand new CE-5 now.
All components in this pedal are surface mounted. The resistors are so tiny that making mods will require a solder iron with an extremly small tip.
There are 5 integrated circuits on the PCB.
3x 4024B (CMOS 7 stage binary count)
1x 4501 or 5223A (Couldn't find any info on this one)
1x ES56028S (ECHO IC (With 20K SRAM) Include an A/D, D/A converter)
I searched google to find what these chips are but I couldn't find any proper datasheets. The text I found suggests that it is digital.
The PCB is marked with CE-5A. This indicates that I have a reworked version of the CE-5.
It still surprises me if the design was changed from analog to digital without changing the name of the pedal. Does any of you have an early CE-5? Are you willing to pick it apart and tell us what it contains?
I would also like to add that this is a cracking chorus pedal. It has pushed my CE-2 back in its box and taken its place on the pedal board. |
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arcanon1313
Silver Member
USA
414 Posts |
Posted - 07/14/2005 : 00:45:33
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My old bass player had an old CE-5, he let me take it home and open it up to see if it was analog or digital. I opened it up and there were the old BBD chips inside (I think that it was bought about 97 or 98) i didn't know anyone else that had one to test the digital theory. from what i hear from other ppl is that boss was going to make the CE-5 digital, and keep the CH-1 analog so ppl would havea choice in what they wanted (and the CH-1 is a cool sounding chorus).
But now we know for sure that the CE-5 is a digital chorus and it still sounds good, so no harm in making it digital. Now I have to go get one. |
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nebo_81
Copper Member
Singapore
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Posted - 08/23/2005 : 12:39:01
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I've opened up my CE-5 ...
it has 1 - 3007, 3101
3 - 5218
1 - 5223
also mine has a blue label on the back ...
the PCB says CE-5 MT BOARD ASSY (does this mean anything ?
is there a difference from most of your's ? |
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bossarea
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
3652 Posts |
Posted - 08/23/2005 : 17:02:25
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MN3007 is a BBD and MN3101 is the accompanying clock driver.
Your pedal is of the older design. Blue label you say. Does it say Made in Japan or Taiwan? The CE-5 debuted in 1991 and I've never seen a Made in Japan version. Then again I've never seen a blue Made in Taiwan plate so something is new here.
The PCB stamp doesn't really say anything. There's usually a number starting with 052 or ET that tells us a little bit more. |
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nebo_81
Copper Member
Singapore
19 Posts |
Posted - 08/24/2005 : 18:58:28
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Sorry but i duno wat "MN3007 is a BBD and MN3101 is the accompanying clock driver." means ... (kinda new to the forum & electronics)
But yeah ... there are those 2 chips you mentioned ~
The CE-5 is a made in Taiwan...
bought it 2nd hand ...
but ... really , the backplate is blue and say's it's made in Taiwan
other then those mentioned on the pcb,
there's this number 7528052000
any idea wat it means ?
does this mean my pedal is analog ??? |
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bossarea
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
3652 Posts |
Posted - 08/25/2005 : 11:58:51
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It means your pedal is analog, yes. It's probably a very early CE-5. Most Japanese made pedals made early 90s had blue labels. Early Taiwan pedals like CE-2 and CE-3 came with green labels.
I'll add this new label to my todo-list of updates. |
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nebo_81
Copper Member
Singapore
19 Posts |
Posted - 08/25/2005 : 16:50:32
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wow ...~!
so ... i didnt know i had such a great pedal ~!
lol ~!
i love the "rate" function of the CE5 ...
compared to the CH1 ...
not enough depth (still sufficient) but it's really verstaile ~!
and with the low and high filters ...
i'd rate this over the CE-2 ...~!
waddya comments ? |
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rschua
Copper Member
Philippines
34 Posts |
Posted - 08/30/2005 : 20:20:37
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| Mine has a 7528052000 on the PCB, Made in Taiwan n has a Blue label also... with a serial # BE63147. Does this means my old beat up CE-5 is actually an analog pedal??? WOW!!! Thats great! Never tried the newer version of the CE-5 thats why I dunno whats the difference??? |
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bossarea
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
3652 Posts |
Posted - 08/31/2005 : 12:36:18
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| I'm quite sure it does. I've never tried the old version so I can't compare either. |
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nicemusic
Copper Member
Reunion Island
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Posted - 09/12/2005 : 07:16:14
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| Does that mean boss produced a taiwan MADE ce-5 analog pedal with the blue label? |
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ce-5 question
