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Laurie
Double Platinum Member

Canada
4854 Posts

Posted - 07/05/2008 :  00:27:22  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Home-brewed (including laying out and etching the board). WAYYYYYYYYYYYY too many hours - don't try this at home.

My only excuse is that i can't justify $400 for a real one.






Dr. Bob
Moderator

Australia
6593 Posts

Posted - 07/05/2008 :  03:52:01  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Laurie

Too Cool...

You get my first Banana-Lama.

Now you know how time consuming.
But ultimately rewarding it all is.

So how well does it work? & other Techie questions.

====Shameless plug====
You are welcome to mail me an un-drilled PCB ...
====end Shameless plug====


Did you ever see my Home brew MXR DynaComp Cone?
Some of the pics are a little blurry, I didn't have a Macro mode on
my older digital camera.
http://www.bossarea.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2729&whichpage=1

Regards Dr. Bob

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DarrinPA
Silver Member

USA
221 Posts

Posted - 07/05/2008 :  20:14:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is that the silver screw version? If you had to out a price on it, how much [including labor] do you think it's worth? Maybe you could start a small company that sells to people like us who don't want to pay $400 also.


And yes a Banana llama from me also.
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member

Ireland
3543 Posts

Posted - 07/05/2008 :  22:38:23  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
your gonna have to move to south america with all the llamas..........excellent job......
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member

Canada
4854 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2008 :  01:09:05  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks guys! I'll be starting a llama farm next week...

Actually... BYOC have a thing called a "lazy sprocket" kit. You can buy them pre-assembled. http://www.buildyourownclone.com/lazysprocket.html

I couldn't compete with them for price cause they do it for a living

If anyone is interested in the PCB artwork to make your own, I can send a copy - just PM me. FYI - it is true-bypass (so no flip-flop in the circuit).




How does it work? I have never heard a Boss one, but the clone does what the real one is described to do. Sensitivity works exactly like you would expect. Attack adjusts from 0 to about 350ms. Playing single, distinct notes works really well. Fast runs don't work well - as expected (the swell circuit stays "energised" unless you have low/zero volume "space" in the incoming signal for the capacitor to discharge).

Didn't really understand the Boss service notes about adjusting the trimmer, so I adjusted it until the output signal started to fall then backed it off a fraction. Seems to work just fine.

Hardest thing was finding the 0.68�F electrolytic - can't buy them here (easily - they can be ordered!), so had to recover one from an old junk stereo. I used a 2SK30A FET I bought from Thailand - I bought a lot of 10 of them some time ago. I expected them to be out-of-spec, but trying an ex-Boss one (left over from my true-bypass mod on the SD-1) there was no difference. I used BC547 GP small signal transistors for the NPN transistors - no problems.

Edited by - Laurie on 07/06/2008 01:37:37
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DeFrag
Moderator

USA
3409 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2008 :  07:42:39  Show Profile  Visit DeFrag's Homepage  Click to see DeFrag's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Damn, sweet Laurie!
I want one..
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the-destructor
Silver Member

USA
334 Posts

Posted - 07/23/2008 :  23:38:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Laurie,
JUST caught this thread. DAMN nice!!! I will, however, forgoe the "banana llama", and instead launch 100 flaming hamsters in a celebratory gesture in your general direction.
YOU ASKED FOR 'EM!
Watch the Canuck skies tonight, those aren't falling stars you're seeing.
Definitely better than my $15 Behringer clone. Hats off to you & congrats. Nice job!!!

I'm in line with the rest, build me one. Screw BYOC, I want (LBMP) Laurie Built My Pedal.

T-D

Edited by - the-destructor on 07/23/2008 23:48:34
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member

Canada
4854 Posts

Posted - 07/24/2008 :  00:41:25  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
You know, if a few people actually do want one of these(?), i could set up a small production run. I'd do them in a black case with black knobs (just like the red one above, but black) - to keep with the SG-1 theme. No screen printed label on the front or anything, and I'd put a 3mm LED in because the 5MM one in a fat silver bezel looks a bit tacky to my eye.

Like the FA-1 I'm looking at building, these would be about $100 plus shipping (trust me - that won't make me a millionaire, it is just the component cost plus a little beer money for the effort).
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sp-1
Platinum Member

Germany
1454 Posts

Posted - 07/24/2008 :  09:40:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I missed this thread also somehow.

Looks very nice Laurie
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Sray10
Silver Member

USA
150 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2008 :  00:49:37  Show Profile  Visit Sray10's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Wow, looks good...but shouldn't it be so dark brown it looks black in color.... I made a couple of A/B boxes, but that's as far as my skills go...( so far ) hey I got one about a month ago for under around $300
yea I'm a sucker for a vintage boss petal....but I absolutely love the SG-1.
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member

Canada
4854 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2008 :  04:05:46  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sray10

Wow, looks good...but shouldn't it be so dark brown it looks black in color.... I made a couple of A/B boxes, but that's as far as my skills go...( so far ) hey I got one about a month ago for under around $300
yea I'm a sucker for a vintage boss petal....but I absolutely love the SG-1.



Thanks! yeah... the next one (if there is one) would be in a black housing with white pointer black knobs.
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starr36
Platinum Member

Canada
1172 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2008 :  17:37:54  Show Profile  Visit starr36's Homepage  Reply with Quote
WOW... if there ever was a reason to order 'blank' cases from boss that only have the two pot holes in them. Having said that, your Red Box is TOTALLY TOTALLY boutique and understated. remarkably cool.
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member

Canada
4854 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2008 :  17:53:39  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
THanks
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member

Canada
4854 Posts

Posted - 11/24/2009 :  16:49:43  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
G'day! Just reviving this thread to mention that I will be redesigning this SG-1 clone to a "standard" size - which will let me add a battery in the box. It will be a "standard" boutique pedal.

I've tried it side-by-side with my real SG-1 and you really can't tell the difference.

I'll post some pics when I have the new prototype finished. I'm building a couple in the New Year for friends locally. If you are interested in one, let me know and I'll tag one for you.
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hateandwar
Gold Member

Australia
524 Posts

Posted - 11/25/2009 :  23:13:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey mate ill be interested in one of these. I don't think ill want to keep my original on my board when I get it
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member

USA
3406 Posts

Posted - 11/26/2009 :  00:01:58  Show Profile  Send zerksies an AOL message  Click to see zerksies's MSN Messenger address  Send zerksies a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
your work looks great,you just need some cool graphix on the pedals
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