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Bob Barcus
Copper Member

USA
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Posted - 01/07/2010 :  18:09:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have a 1985 DSD I never noticed before but the faded lable says to use a PSA adaptor.I thought that All older Boss pedals used ACA 120

Pedal Dan
Silver Member

USA
419 Posts

Posted - 01/07/2010 :  19:04:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'll have to check mine when I get home. They do eat batterys, 2hr's tops!!!
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Laurie
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Canada
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Posted - 01/07/2010 :  19:26:12  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
All (really ALL) DD-2, DD-3, DSD-2 and DSD-3 pedals require a PSA adapter.

An ACA adapter will damage them.
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Miky
Silver Member

Czech Republic
184 Posts

Posted - 01/07/2010 :  19:57:25  Show Profile  Visit Miky's Homepage  Send Miky an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Laurie


An ACA adapter will damage them.


Hi Laurie, what do you think 10 volts will do to a DD-3?
Here a local manufacturer offers a power supply for 4-8 effects claiming it to be ok for ibanez and boss pedals, nonetheless, his power supply outputs 10 volts which I find a bit risky for my long-chip DD-3.
The manufacturer says on his website that he decided on the ten volts after measuring different new 9 volts batteries which always provided almost ten volts.
I already saw people using his power supply supposedly with no harm on pedals.
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kpd78
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34 Posts

Posted - 01/07/2010 :  20:14:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Miky

quote:
Originally posted by Laurie


An ACA adapter will damage them.


Hi Laurie, what do you think 10 volts will do to a DD-3?
Here a local manufacturer offers a power supply for 4-8 effects claiming it to be ok for ibanez and boss pedals, nonetheless, his power supply outputs 10 volts which I find a bit risky for my long-chip DD-3.
The manufacturer says on his website that he decided on the ten volts after measuring different new 9 volts batteries which always provided almost ten volts.
I already saw people using his power supply supposedly with no harm on pedals.



i'm not going to tell you everything will be fine using a 10v power supply, because i don't know. there seems to be some inconsistency between pedal power requirements and their power supplies...

i have Electro-Harmonix pedals which state they require a 9v power supply; the provided PSUs are actually rated at 9.6v... and the PSUs that came with my EHX pedals say 'Suitable for Boss and Ibanez' on the side.

i have DOD pedals which state they require 10v yet the DOD PSU is labelled as being 9v.

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Bob Barcus
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USA
22 Posts

Posted - 01/07/2010 :  20:25:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I got a DOD FX 105 power supply to run my Vintage 1979 to 1988 pedals 10v and 15v both can be used at same time
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zerksies
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USA
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Posted - 01/07/2010 :  21:10:20  Show Profile  Send zerksies an AOL message  Click to see zerksies's MSN Messenger address  Send zerksies a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
i would measure the volts coming out of the adapter. it says 10 but is it really 10.
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sp-1
Platinum Member

Germany
1454 Posts

Posted - 01/07/2010 :  21:25:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Used a roland acb 9v adapter on a mt-2, worked fine. When I used the same adapter on a mij dd-3 the dd-3 did nothing. Found out the acb adapter was pumping 14,4 v Didn't damage the dd-3 though


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bossarea
Forum Admin

United Kingdom
3652 Posts

Posted - 01/07/2010 :  23:17:23  Show Profile  Visit bossarea's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The PSA adapter was introduced with the RV-2 and was the preferred adapter for all early digital pedals.
The easy rule to remember is

blue, pink, silver labels - PSA
black, green, orange labels - ACA

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Laurie
Double Platinum Member

Canada
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Posted - 01/07/2010 :  23:29:15  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The DD-2, DD-3, DSD-2 and DSD-3 require the following:
- a regulated supply (unregulated/filtered is inadequate)
- a voltage that NEVER exceeds about 10V under any load condition

Using a supply that is higher than 11V will certainly, sooner or later, damage the pedal. The infamous "D6" failure will result.
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Pedal Dan
Silver Member

USA
419 Posts

Posted - 01/07/2010 :  23:47:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks, Laurie. I've only used a battery on my DSD-2, but it proves you have to be careful. I use an 18v adapter on my AD-80 and it uses the same 1/8 inch plug that my old TS-808's have. Wouldn't want to accidently mix those up! ZAP!!!
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Miky
Silver Member

Czech Republic
184 Posts

Posted - 01/08/2010 :  01:50:42  Show Profile  Visit Miky's Homepage  Send Miky an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks Laurie, thats what I needed to know.

Edited by - Miky on 01/08/2010 01:51:04
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verivorax
Platinum Member

Canada
1185 Posts

Posted - 01/08/2010 :  03:53:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
the most important voltage on the DSD is that super-fun 5v pulse input!
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Pedal Dan
Silver Member

USA
419 Posts

Posted - 01/08/2010 :  04:22:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Right You are verivorax, there's a vid on YouTube of a guy just workin'that thing with an old drum machine. I've gotta try that!
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verivorax
Platinum Member

Canada
1185 Posts

Posted - 01/08/2010 :  07:57:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've run mine off an old DR-220A - the rimshot sound outputs the 5v pulse. I also have a nifty 5v pulse-box which allows me to trigger the sampler any time I want while keeping the knobs at finger-level! I can't remember if I ever plugged mine into an ACA.. hope not!
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ssanyee
Silver Member

Hungary
288 Posts

Posted - 01/09/2010 :  19:36:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bob Barcus

I have a 1985 DSD I never noticed before but the faded lable says to use a PSA adaptor.I thought that All older Boss pedals used ACA 120



Hi Bob Barcus,

Due to the reason that these pedals are consuming above 50mA so the voltage needs to be kept stable around 9V and it is only possible from a stabilized PSA adaptor and not from a simple ACA version. As I am using a daisy chain with 10 pedals and a PSA adaptor in my system is working very well even if some pedal in the chain still requires ACA individually!

Hope I could help a bit!

cheers

Edited by - ssanyee on 01/09/2010 19:38:18
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