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faltarn
Bronze Member

Sweden
72 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2010 :  01:46:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think this overdrive is the best of them all to make a fat overdrive sound throu a not tube amplifier. What do you think? faltarn

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zerksies
Double Platinum Member

USA
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Posted - 01/06/2010 :  02:59:40  Show Profile  Send zerksies an AOL message  Click to see zerksies's MSN Messenger address  Send zerksies a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I like the blues driver
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Rich_S
Silver Member

USA
219 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2010 :  03:47:31  Show Profile  Visit Rich_S's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I think 4 knobs is too many for an overdrive. I'm partial to the SD-1, especially with some or all of the Allums GT mod in it.
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Mesjoggah
Gold Member

Netherlands
595 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2010 :  06:32:32  Show Profile  Click to see Mesjoggah's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
The SD-2 is a great pedal, underrated too!
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fabs
Silver Member

France
213 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2010 :  09:11:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I love the SD-2, she will never leave my pedalboard
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Right Foot Boss
Gold Member

USA
881 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2010 :  11:43:26  Show Profile  Visit Right Foot Boss's Homepage  Send Right Foot Boss an AOL message  Reply with Quote
OD-1
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Goran
Double Platinum Member

Sweden
2203 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2010 :  11:53:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
SD-2 is a great OD, OD-3 is also nice.
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member

Ireland
3543 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2010 :  12:23:16  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Don't really use boss overdrives anymore except for the odd rehearsal whan i'm too lazy to carry my pedalboard in but my OD-2 has always sounded pretty good to me...gives you two different overdrive sounds...
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Leeroyfunk
Silver Member

United Kingdom
400 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2010 :  12:55:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
OD-3 gets my vote: Probably the closest to a Marshall-sounding overdrive in a Boss pedal (if that's your thing).

I've tried most of them, all with solidstate amps - Here's my (highly subjective) opinion:

SD-1: Too much bass roll-off, not enough volume (MIT needs to have the volume knob almost max'ed for unity)
SD-2: WAY too bright in crunch mode, and doesn't do subtle; Lead mode is more like fuzz/distortion than an overdrive
BD-2: Nice OD at lower gain, but a bit trebly/harsh when maxed
OS-2: OK sound on the OD side, there's a sweet spot on the colour knob just a bit up from fully CCW, but quite fiddly to find a good sound.
OD-2: Probably second place to OD-3, bit less bass overall

I've not tried either of the newer Fender ones or the Dynadrive. TBH, I gave up hunting for the ideal Boss overdrive when I built myself a Catalinbread Dirty Little Secret clone - Now that is a pedal that sounds VERY much like a cranked Marshall amp through even the crappiest tranny amp...

Edited by - Leeroyfunk on 01/06/2010 12:58:02
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strat714
Silver Member

USA
156 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2010 :  15:28:49  Show Profile  Visit strat714's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I like a MIJ SD-1. They are very touch sensitive with humbuckers. I can roll off the volume to clean up OR crank the volume and pick harder to get more Overdrive.
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Dirk
Platinum Member

Netherlands
1309 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2010 :  17:20:16  Show Profile  Visit Dirk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Leeroyfunk
I've tried most of them, all with solidstate amps.



Right, and here is where most people miss the point.
I'm not dissing you here Leeroyfunk, this is just for tuitional purposes
Overdrives were originally designed to drive an amp into distortion.
Most amps around that time were tube amps, especially guitar amps, so it's more than likely that the first overdrive (whoever built it) was tested with a tube amp.
Also, most amps around that time were non-master volume, so to achieve the same sweet sound at a much lower level, an overdrive could be easily used to mimick the amps behaviour and sound at full decibel levels.

These days, a lot of (especially budget or practice) amps have a solid state circuitry which behaves in a completely different way then a tube amp.
That's why a lot of overdrive and distortion units sound completely different when used in front of a solid state or a tube amp.
Off course, there are no rules, if you like a particular OD in front of a practice amp, fine.
But it's not like an OD is a tube amp in a box, it was designed to do a different job.
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member

Canada
4854 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2010 :  17:29:23  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
To build on Dirk's comments...

The term "overdive" is the key - the idea was to drive the input stage of a tube amp with a signal that is higher ("over") a normal guitar signal. This pushed the input tube harder, producing the crunch we all know and love. It is important to note that the tone comes from the input tube itself in a true over-driven rig, not from diodes in a pedal.

The "overdrive" pedals are designed to mimic an overdriven sound, not actually produce it. These pedals use clipping/feedback diodes to try to recreate the overdriven tube sound, and some do it more successfully than others. Often, the combination of the overdrive mimic sound in the pedal combuined with mild overdrive crunch in the amp input tube sounds pretty good, so overdrive pedals have a secure place in many rigs.

To produce a true overdrive sound you need a large clean boost into a good tube amp - no clipping diodes or anything fancy required.

Edited by - Laurie on 01/06/2010 17:30:55
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member

Ireland
3543 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2010 :  17:57:46  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Or get a tube overdrive pedal ..thats what i did... i have a pedal with a pair of 6021 mil-spec tubes that provide the overdrive sound but the downside is a proper tube overdrive pedal like mine that runs on a HT power supply is pretty big and heavy compared to a boss compact...but the sound is a lot like a amp cranked and it was like adding two more channels to my amp after i got it..and it also sounds prety good going into a solid state amp,i use a marshall MG 100 watt amp in rehearsal and it sounds pretty good with it as well..i usual keep my amp very clean sounding as like to have a solid clean sound for rhythm....
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Dirk
Platinum Member

Netherlands
1309 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2010 :  20:14:16  Show Profile  Visit Dirk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks Laurie, for enlightening the technical side of the matter
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Pedal Dan
Silver Member

USA
419 Posts

Posted - 01/07/2010 :  02:38:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm playing a mid 80's Yamaha od-100, just got it today for under $50. It cooks! Good bottom, smooth mids. It's quite a surprise!
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Witloofboer
Gold Member

Belgium
513 Posts

Posted - 01/07/2010 :  09:35:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by FRANZONI

Don't really use boss overdrives anymore except for the odd rehearsal whan i'm too lazy to carry my pedalboard in but my OD-2 has always sounded pretty good to me...gives you two different overdrive sounds...



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