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Jay Marriott
Copper Member
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 07/05/2007 : 18:34:59
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I'm looking to get the rotary speaker effect, I've been told to use a tremolo and chorus pedal, which i'm going to try out.
Is there any other idea's, flanger, Phaser etc? |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 07/05/2007 : 19:06:56
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I use the ch1 and the tr2 together to get the effect you describe,i used to use a ph2 or a bf2 as well to get the swirly effect of a rotary speaker but i found that on a gig it gets a bit 'lost' in the mix and it needs three pedals to get the sound...i still use the ch1 and the tr2 together sometimes but i'm getting an analogman bi chorus to see if this works better for this effect..or i suppose you could try the rt 20 which is supposed to be pretty good,a couple of people on the forum have rotospheres and some of the boutique makers are making analog simulators these days which are also supposed to be great...imho... to get the best sound run the chorus last on your chain out to two amps for a stereo spread because a real rotary speaker is a spatial effect with two speakers....i find the chorus really fills out the sound this way..... |
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zestystrat
Silver Member
USA
283 Posts |
Posted - 07/05/2007 : 19:11:20
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| One word....ROTOSPHERE. |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 07/05/2007 : 20:01:08
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| hi zestystrat...not trying to hijack the thread but have you had any issues with the volume control on the rotosphere..i.e....i heard it controls the volume of the signal going through the pedal even when it's off and it can distort your sound a bit....i might be interested in one if this wasn't an issue..... |
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zestystrat
Silver Member
USA
283 Posts |
Posted - 07/05/2007 : 20:31:03
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No not really. The issue I have had, and this just came up again this weekend, is that they do have a slight tendency to break down. I think the switches are the issue. I'm not a tech or even try to F with these things but I have had switch issues with them.
That said, the service has been interesting as I got a free one from them due to slow repair service (if you do a search on this forum I told the whole story). We’ll see what happens with my next go-‘round.
Sound wise I love them and they are very hard to top.
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Jay Marriott
Copper Member
United Kingdom
21 Posts |
Posted - 07/05/2007 : 23:00:08
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Sorry i should have said i was using a CE-3 and a TR-2
Is the CE-3 different to a CH-1? |
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ChristoMephisto
Platinum Member
Canada
1288 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2007 : 14:56:31
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I had a nice sound when i mixed my hf-2 and ph-2 in a ls-2 in A+B mode.
I'd like to upgrade it with ph-1r. I'll have to try the chorus and tremolo when i get a chance, sounds cool.
I got a Dano Rocky Road Spinning Speaker that does a somewhat decent job, I find it kinda weak though |
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
Australia
6593 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2007 : 16:25:49
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Hi Guys
The Boss PW-10 COSM Wah
Does a nice Vintage Uni-V (UniVibe) swirling rotary sound.
I can get the Trower - Bridge Of Sighs sound with it. (Robin Trower)
But I'm still undecided about this Wah.
Sometimes it's just so frustrating to use.
But I guess that's another post in another thread.
Some ok sound samples here:
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Boss-PW10-VWah-Pedal?sku=151425
The GT-3 also has a few nice Rotary effect patches.
Regards Dr. Bob |
Edited by - Dr. Bob on 07/06/2007 16:32:45 |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2007 : 18:25:47
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jay... i think your probably doing alright with the ce 3 'cause its probably a bit warmer and more 'warbly' than the ch1.. if you know what i mean..it also has stereo outs so try it wih a second amp and see what you think.... |
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jaymzHal
Silver Member
United Kingdom
297 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2007 : 18:39:08
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| I would say the rotary modulation on the ME-50 is a pretty good rotary speaker simulation, especially with the stereo outs. The modulated reverb on the boss ME-50 is also pretty good especially when combined with the stereo chorus modulation. I also like the uni-vibe sim. |
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Jay Marriott
Copper Member
United Kingdom
21 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2007 : 21:04:04
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Originally posted by FRANZONI
jay... i think your probably doing alright with the ce 3 'cause its probably a bit warmer and more 'warbly' than the ch1..if you know what i mean..it also has stereo outs so try it wih a second amp and see what you think....
Sh!t, I'll have to buy another AC15 and make a little stack . |
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Jay Marriott
Copper Member
United Kingdom
21 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2007 : 21:22:13
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Ok, so now i'm thinking about getting a GT-3 or ME-50.
Which one would be the best one? do you get that split second gap when switching between effects and can you use more than one effect at a time.
I'm looking to get the "Skin" Tyson sound on the Cast albums. |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2007 : 22:02:36
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i've sort of gone off multi effect units,i like to mess around with the pedals and see what sounds i can come up with,also i find that the multi effects have a lot of things you would never use on a gig unless you were playing really avant garde type music..and the most annoying thing i find with them is they are too fiddly to ajust on the fly between songs......
btw....the ac 15...good amp....is it an orginal or one of the reissues...? |
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jaymzHal
Silver Member
United Kingdom
297 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2007 : 23:49:18
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As a rule of thumb I prefer seperate effects, but I still go back to my ME50 whenever I don't have too much time to set much up or just want to practice with headphones. The ME50 has a 30+ surprisingly good presets which can be overwritten if you wish, and you can use an overdrive, modulation, delay, compressor, noise gate, reverb, guitar type (acoustic, hollow body etc) and expression pedal (the + and - octaves are ace, and the wah is pretty good) all at the same time. You can get one for around £100 on ebay and they come with a power supply new ;)
Also the delays are nothing short of fantastic, so for basically the money of a DD6 you can get equivalent functions (2 seconds of delay, reverse etc) and plenty of others as well as everything else good about an ME50. However, it's damn bulky compared to other options. Every guitar shop seems to have one available to test so I'd recommend you try it, you wont find many of the other options for a rotary sim in your local guitar store that's for sure.
It really depends how good your pedalboard is, if you just and only just want a rotary sim I would try and find a smaller alternative, but if you would quite like a set of good (obviously not as good as individual boxes) effects which can be used via headphones and such then definitely get one.
I actually keep one in my main rig for the volume pedal, the delays (now partly replaced by my latest aquisition ;) )and the reverb (simply dont have a reverb pedal), and at a push you could use it for everything, especially if you had to pack light!
woah, essay. |
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Jay Marriott
Copper Member
United Kingdom
21 Posts |
Posted - 07/07/2007 : 12:49:15
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Originally posted by FRANZONI
i've sort of gone off multi effect units,i like to mess around with the pedals and see what sounds i can come up with,also i find that the multi effects have a lot of things you would never use on a gig unless you were playing really avant garde type music..and the most annoying thing i find with them is they are too fiddly to ajust on the fly between songs......
btw....the ac 15...good amp....is it an orginal or one of the reissues...?
It's a late 90's uk made reissue, though i was thinking about getting one of the new chinese ones, to get a stereo set up. |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 07/10/2007 : 22:57:22
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| have you checked out stahlhart's thread about the ce1...i've always looked at the chorus sound as the desendant of the leslie/rotary speaker sound the only problem is (i think) that the orginal leslie's had a slight phasery sound to them as well...if you listen to clapton on 'badge' from the cream days you can hear it...... |
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Rotary speaker effect.
