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Laurie
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Posted - 05/05/2008 :  00:12:14  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I've been thinking my PH-2 sounds weird for a while now, so I thought I'd ask you folks what your PH-2 sounds like.

Clean: feeding it with a clean guitar signal it sounds fine, just like a phaser should.

Distorted: the attack seems to "resonate" - it sounds like it's making "solid state distortion" out of the pick attack (but just the atttack - once the chord settles down it sounds OK). Sounds similar driving it with a DS-1, MT-2 and ML-2.

Is this weird, or is that just how the PH-2 responds to distortion? My PH-3 doesn't do this, but I think it's a completely different beast electronically. I've started thinking the PH-2 is basically OK because it sounds fine with clean input...

What is your experience with the PH-2?

zentropa
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USA
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Posted - 05/05/2008 :  00:17:23  Show Profile  Send zentropa an AOL message  Reply with Quote
my experience is that the PH-2 sounds god awful with distortion. made it sound like a wah pedal all the way down with a little swishing sound underneath.

the only reason i chased a ph-1 down even though i use a phaser once in a blue moon was because i found the ph-2 to be that mediocre when distorted.
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Laurie
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Canada
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Posted - 05/05/2008 :  02:32:13  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by zentropa

my experience is that the PH-2 sounds god awful with distortion. made it sound like a wah pedal all the way down with a little swishing sound underneath.

the only reason i chased a ph-1 down even though i use a phaser once in a blue moon was because i found the ph-2 to be that mediocre when distorted.



Well OK...!! Thanks for that. I don't feel like I'm imagining things anymore...

Hmmm, how does the PH1r sound with distortion?
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zentropa
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Posted - 05/05/2008 :  02:57:05  Show Profile  Send zentropa an AOL message  Reply with Quote
were your experiences with it on par with mine? hehe

PH-1r = much better w/ distortion than the PH-2.

i thought the PH-1 was a little warmer so i decided to keep that one.
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Laurie
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Canada
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Posted - 05/05/2008 :  05:23:50  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by zentropa

were your experiences with it on par with mine? hehe



I wish I knew... still waiting on Canada post!
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zentropa
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Posted - 05/05/2008 :  05:44:37  Show Profile  Send zentropa an AOL message  Reply with Quote
i meant with the PH-2 sounding like having a wah on all the way down + a swoosh underneath.

i remember it being bad both before and after any distortion but better if it was before the distortion.
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ChristoMephisto
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Posted - 05/05/2008 :  11:07:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
have you tried the PH2 before the distortion?
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Sixbladeknife
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Posted - 05/05/2008 :  11:37:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Laurie

quote:
Originally posted by zentropa

my experience is that the PH-2 sounds god awful with distortion. made it sound like a wah pedal all the way down with a little swishing sound underneath.

the only reason i chased a ph-1 down even though i use a phaser once in a blue moon was because i found the ph-2 to be that mediocre when distorted.



Well OK...!! Thanks for that. I don't feel like I'm imagining things anymore...

Hmmm, how does the PH1r sound with distortion?


I have both and I agree the PH-2 doesn't do well w/ dirt but I've always dug it clean- very unique sounding 12 stage phaser that should get more love than it does (fwiw mine is a Japan version). My Ph-1r on the other hand does great w/ dirt which I guess is to be expected as its a much more conventional sounding phaser.
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Laurie
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Canada
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Posted - 05/05/2008 :  15:51:21  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by zentropa

i meant with the PH-2 sounding like having a wah on all the way down + a swoosh underneath.

i remember it being bad both before and after any distortion but better if it was before the distortion.



Hmmm... with the switch set to "position II" it sounds like a wah for sure. Sounds "normal" with the switch in position I other than the break-up on the attack, and that break-up sounds awful!

I haven't tried it before the distortion - I'll give that a go tonight. I do like it with a clean signal though.

I guess my main concern was whether it was a dud. With the crap sound others are seeing with a distorted input, I'm comfortable that the pedal is actually OK and that's "a good thing". I have a PH-1r coming this week (thanks Zentropa!) and I expect that the PH-1r will be everything I was hoping the PH-2 was going to be. That being said, I did pick the PH-2 up from Cash Convertors years ago for about $40 so it's all good!!!

Edited by - Laurie on 05/05/2008 15:52:00
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