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kulten
Gold Member

France
516 Posts

Posted - 03/26/2006 :  09:35:04  Show Profile  Visit kulten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
OK, let's have a look... because I think Synth Pedals are the coolest thing in the world ! A synthesizer in you pocket, trigged by anything you want ! Dreamland...

I post it here because we'll talk about SYB as a main influence in the Synth pedal world, so I think "Boss Compact Pedal" is the place...

some are filters, some are synths, some are both, some are mono, some are poly...

- wich one do you know/use/like/hate ?
- do you still prefer SYB-3/SYB-5 or not ?


BOSS SYB-3 bass synthesizer :

these are my samples

http://site.voila.fr/syb3/NOISE.mp3
http://site.voila.fr/syb3/SAW.mp3
http://site.voila.fr/syb3/WAVE_SHAPE.mp3
http://site.voila.fr/syb3/PWM.mp3

BOSS SYB-5 bass synthesizer :

these are my samples

http://site.voila.fr/syb5/SQUARE_LFO.mp3
http://site.voila.fr/syb5/SQUARE_LOW_OCTAVE.mp3
http://site.voila.fr/syb5/PULSE_2.mp3
http://site.voila.fr/syb5/PULSE_PWM.mp3

AKAI SB-1 "deep impact" :

review :

http://jeffnet.org/~addicott/gear/akai.html

sounds :

unofficial :

http://www.geocities.com/basseffects/akai.html

from Aka� official site :

http://www.akaipro.com/audio_demo/EFFECTS_PEDALS/Sb1P1.mp3

http://www.akaipro.com/audio_demo/EFFECTS_PEDALS/Sb1P4.mp3

http://www.akaipro.com/audio_demo/EFFECTS_PEDALS/Sb1P6.mp3

image :

http://www.guitarsandeffects.com/images/deepimpactakai.JPG

IBANEZ SB-7 "synthesizer bass"

more a filter than a synth :

http://www.ibanez.co.jp/world/products/effects/page/sb7.html

DIGITECH "bass synth wah :

http://www.digitech.com/products/BassSw.htm


DIGITECH "synth wah :

http://www.digitech.com/products/synthwah.htm

ELECTRO HARMONIX Micro Bass Synthesizer :

http://www.ehx.com/ehx2/Default.asp?q=f&f=%2FCatalog%2F24%5FSynthesis%2F09%5FBass%5FMicro%5FSynthesizer

bossarea
Forum Admin

United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/26/2006 :  12:12:26  Show Profile  Visit bossarea's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Great job bringing together all those links. It's a good overview to the different pocket synths out available.

I like the SYB-5 better than the SYB-3. I've been using them mainly with a guitar as input and the SYB-5 tracks better and has the expression pedal input that I find useful. The others here I haven't tried but some of the sound samples are impressive.
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visserman
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1072 Posts

Posted - 03/26/2006 :  17:25:40  Show Profile  Visit visserman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Kulten, what did you use as imput for your own samples?? Was it bass where you put the effected sound on full so without noticing the orginal signal?

You soundclips sound very good, do recogonise some of the sounds but just wondering how you can get them to sound so clean.
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kulten
Gold Member

France
516 Posts

Posted - 03/26/2006 :  18:55:22  Show Profile  Visit kulten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I plug a drum machine into the SYB.

Then knob tweaking.
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svengali
Bronze Member

Australia
111 Posts

Posted - 03/26/2006 :  23:03:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
kulten,

i see that you like this pedal. (syb)
boss pedals are a one way street in my house.
there is no trading, no profit. they come in,
they stay in. I have no interest in the market.
I get my pedals cheap, by looking hard..or even by
finding them(!)(my heart just leapt at the memory
of that magic moment)...
Anyway. there have only been two 'rejections'

1. the syb
2. the ps5

These pedals had to go..they were tainting my impression
of the other pedals by mere association.
the syb..well. i just couldnt believe my ears
and the ps5..jesus christ on a bicycle that pedal was bad.
are you serious..you use the syb to make sounds?
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kulten
Gold Member

France
516 Posts

Posted - 03/27/2006 :  09:11:28  Show Profile  Visit kulten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by svengali

kulten,

are you serious..you use the syb to make sounds?




yes !

live acts with a DR-110 and a SYB-3... and sometimes the SYB-5 for background LFO effect.

here, the SYB-3 (saw) and the SYB-5 (saw + LFO) :

http://site.voila.fr/electrokult/doublesaw.mp3


Edited by - kulten on 03/27/2006 09:14:40
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visserman
Platinum Member

1072 Posts

Posted - 03/29/2006 :  21:11:44  Show Profile  Visit visserman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hey Kulten,

I have tried this trick with the SBY-3 as well, used an electronic metronome, then into the Sansamp classic, then into the SBY-3 from there signal went into gtr.amp.

Now you may like the idea of the Sansamp classic:

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.tech21nyc.com/images/classic_image.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.tech21nyc.com/classic.html&h=284&w=403&sz=19&tbnid=svF1U0ri-L52_M:&tbnh=85&tbnw=121&hl=en&start=6&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dsansamp%2Bclassic%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG

With the Sansamp you have tree different gainstructures, all three different setting accent the beat differently. Basiscally this means that you can hear more notes coming from your SBY-3, almost like............ an arpeggiator!! VERY COOl.

You could try different preamps to create a similar effect. Pitty that I cannot put up MP3s to let you hear how this patch sounds like.

Anyway I do like the whole thing, and never really thought about using the SBY-3 as an instrument on its own.

Thanks for the sparkling off that idea!!
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kulten
Gold Member

France
516 Posts

Posted - 03/29/2006 :  23:22:36  Show Profile  Visit kulten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
well when I started electronic music 12 years ago, I wanted a bass synth and a basic drum machine for minimal electo live... and I said to myself a pedal synth was the clue : no keyboards, no sequencers, no MIDI... no problems !
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visserman
Platinum Member

1072 Posts

Posted - 03/29/2006 :  23:48:49  Show Profile  Visit visserman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kulten

well when I started electronic music 12 years ago, I wanted a bass synth and a basic drum machine for minimal electo live... and I said to myself a pedal synth was the clue : no keyboards, no sequencers, no MIDI... no problems !



So you would not like to add just one more stompbox and be able to get some more notes out of your SBY-3 then..........??
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kulten
Gold Member

France
516 Posts

Posted - 03/29/2006 :  23:54:46  Show Profile  Visit kulten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
answer is : "MINIMAL" techno...

I tried all (almost) BOSS pedals...

but I LOVE the SYB sound on its own.

Edited by - kulten on 03/29/2006 23:55:36
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visserman
Platinum Member

1072 Posts

Posted - 03/29/2006 :  23:57:55  Show Profile  Visit visserman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kulten

answer is : "MINIMAL" techno...

I tried all (almost) BOSS pedals...

but I LOVE the SYB sound on its own.



Oh I get your point man, it was just such a surprise that adding a preamp infront of the SBY-3 gives you also more notes. I did not expect that at all!!
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kulten
Gold Member

France
516 Posts

Posted - 04/08/2006 :  09:33:05  Show Profile  Visit kulten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I FORGOT THE WP-20G "Wave Processor" !!! :

REVIEW :

http://www.harmony-central.com/Effects/Data/Boss/WP_20G_Wave_Processor-1.html

IMAGE (can read : "saw lead, square, ring mod"... yum !) :

http://www.bossarea.com/other/WP20G.asp

just need a Roland GK and a guit' or a bass...


Sonosaur Analog Bass Pedal Synthesizer

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=+7364494285


DOD FX25

image :

http://www.helpwantedproductions.com/ebay/dodfx25.jpg


EBS BASS IQ

here with MP3 samples :

http://www.ebs.bass.se/koll/bassiq.htm


info : I TRIED THE BOSS ME-50B synth sounds : did'nt like it...

Edited by - kulten on 04/08/2006 09:53:45
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idoru
Copper Member

Australia
38 Posts

Posted - 04/09/2006 :  00:34:49  Show Profile  Visit idoru's Homepage  Click to see idoru's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
One of my long-term projects is to put a Roland GK pickup on my old SSD NS-4. It's not pretty, being all black & a little scratched, and the basic sound is a little too flat now I'm used to my Warwick Thumb 4.

It would be fun to break it out for one or two songs in a set and make some seriously messed up noises :)

chris/bass/idoru
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kulten
Gold Member

France
516 Posts

Posted - 04/24/2006 :  08:40:47  Show Profile  Visit kulten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
a "SYB-3 + DR-110 only" video :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tp3NfUCLZrY

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kulten
Gold Member

France
516 Posts

Posted - 04/24/2006 :  22:50:28  Show Profile  Visit kulten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
recorded april 22 2006 !!! my last concert, SYB-3 + SYB-5 + DR-110 :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpV-LtDBjTg

I looooove the SYB.
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