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LuminaryJCP
Bronze Member

USA
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Posted - 03/20/2009 :  13:47:51  Show Profile  Visit LuminaryJCP's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hey all, I just managed to get some great deals on a PH-1r ($65.00) and a MIJ CE-2 ($80.00) but I have a question. Is it possible to use these (and other ACA adapter pedals) with the BCB-60 or another "mainstream" pedal board power supply? What about running these off a TU-2 in a daisy chain? Thanks for the help! Now I just have to try and track down an FZ-2 for a decent price, but it looks like they are going for almost twice what I paid for the PH-1r!

rhcp_1005
Silver Member

United Kingdom
307 Posts

Posted - 03/20/2009 :  14:44:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think you can only if theres another pedal that uses the PSA adaptors in the chain like any of the newer pedals.
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controlfreak
Silver Member

Ireland
337 Posts

Posted - 03/20/2009 :  15:23:21  Show Profile  Visit controlfreak's Homepage  Reply with Quote
yup, all you need is to power one ACA type pedal with the power supply and daisy chain off that to the PH-1r or CE-2. I have both the PH-1r and CE-2 on my board at the mo and i'm daisy-chaining off the PSM-5 and it works a treat!
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LuminaryJCP
Bronze Member

USA
85 Posts

Posted - 03/20/2009 :  15:38:59  Show Profile  Visit LuminaryJCP's Homepage  Reply with Quote
ControlFreak, did you mean to say all you need is to have one PSA type pedal powered in the chain (TU-2, NS-2) and Daisy Chain off of that? As in, I do not need to own an ACA type adapter? Thanks!
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PaulH
Gold Member

535 Posts

Posted - 03/20/2009 :  15:46:07  Show Profile  Visit PaulH's Homepage  Reply with Quote
A PSA adapter is fine with ACA inputs.
I use a PSA adapter with my HF2.

I have used the HF2 with a daisy chain powered from a NS2 with no issues.
I have also used the HF2 on a BCB60 with no issues.
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Dr. Bob
Moderator

Australia
6593 Posts

Posted - 03/20/2009 :  15:55:12  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LuminaryJCP

Hey all, I just managed to get some great deals on a PH-1r ($65.00) and a MIJ CE-2 ($80.00) but I have a question. Is it possible to use these (and other ACA adapter pedals) with the BCB-60 or another "mainstream" pedal board power supply? What about running these off a TU-2 in a daisy chain? Thanks for the help! Now I just have to try and track down an FZ-2 for a decent price, but it looks like they are going for almost twice what I paid for the PH-1r!



Hi LuminaryJCP

Please read this link for a good explanation:
http://www.bossarea.com/other/aca.asp

Regards Dr. Bob
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LuminaryJCP
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USA
85 Posts

Posted - 03/20/2009 :  17:06:41  Show Profile  Visit LuminaryJCP's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks, everyone!
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member

USA
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Posted - 03/21/2009 :  01:01:41  Show Profile  Send zerksies an AOL message  Click to see zerksies's MSN Messenger address  Send zerksies a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
you can use it but it has a few problems mostly the led does not work is most of the problems that i hear
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verivorax
Platinum Member

Canada
1185 Posts

Posted - 03/21/2009 :  02:52:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Basically, if your ACA pedals share the power from a PSA with at least ONE PSA pedal, your ACA pedals will work. Otherwise, the 9v regulated isn't enough to power the ACA fx.
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zentropa
Gold Member

USA
837 Posts

Posted - 04/01/2009 :  08:39:31  Show Profile  Send zentropa an AOL message  Reply with Quote
something random you might want to try...

i actually prefer the sound of my modulation effects when they are underpowered. CE-2's and PH-1's (and BF-2's) are a lot more transparent when they are powered with a PSA adapter than an ACA. overdrives and analog delays on the other hand NEED full power from my experiences to avoid sounding weak, but for modulation it can open up the mix a bit. it's worth experimenting with imo if you haven't.
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DeFrag
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USA
3409 Posts

Posted - 04/01/2009 :  16:03:54  Show Profile  Visit DeFrag's Homepage  Click to see DeFrag's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I've read that undervoltage lessens headroom.
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zentropa
Gold Member

USA
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Posted - 04/01/2009 :  17:08:35  Show Profile  Send zentropa an AOL message  Reply with Quote
there's definitely a headroom loss with the DM-2/DM-3.

SD-1's/OD-1's end up losing a ton of gain/bite... it basically makes them sound castrated.

with CE-2's/PH-1's/BF-2's, etc. i've found it rolls off some treble, but in a good way. warms it up nicely but still has a full low end.

i've used the last few with some fairly hot pickups (500T's, Super D's, Evolutions, etc.) and haven't had a headroom issue, but i generally run my TU-2 first in the chain in order to act as an impedance buffer.
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