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MullyFX
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Germany
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Posted - 12/03/2008 :  18:44:04  Show Profile  Visit MullyFX's Homepage  Reply with Quote


could someone explain to me why a PASSIVE volume knob needs a battery?

I always thought only active stuff needs batteries...

it's not a joke question btw

Laurie
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Posted - 12/03/2008 :  18:51:04  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It's probably just to power the LED....
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MullyFX
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Posted - 12/03/2008 :  22:31:45  Show Profile  Visit MullyFX's Homepage  Reply with Quote
now that would be really strange.... hehe

I like the idea though... could be cool for usage as a 2nd preset for germanium fuzz faces
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Laurie
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Posted - 12/04/2008 :  00:08:52  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MullyFX

now that would be really strange.... hehe


Some manufacturers do the same thing on bypass loopers. The LED is to show it's bypassed or not, and the only reason you need power to the pedal is to run the LED.
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DeFrag
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Posted - 12/04/2008 :  04:00:40  Show Profile  Visit DeFrag's Homepage  Click to see DeFrag's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Yup, LED.
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DarrinPA
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Posted - 12/04/2008 :  06:57:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
How much does that cost? I tried looking but couldn't find the price for it. I want one, it would be much easier than having my volume pedal [the wah type] take up space, not to mention less weight.
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MullyFX
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Posted - 12/04/2008 :  12:26:49  Show Profile  Visit MullyFX's Homepage  Reply with Quote
http://www.thomann.de/gb/electro_harmonix_signal_pad.htm
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Dr. Bob
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Posted - 12/04/2008 :  12:59:21  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I Heard the Blue LED version works much better.
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Laurie
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Posted - 12/04/2008 :  14:34:55  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Bob

I Heard the Blue LED version works much better.


Is that a flashing "sarcasm" sign I can see on your forehead Dr. Bob?
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Laurie
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Posted - 12/04/2008 :  14:41:11  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DarrinPA

How much does that cost? I tried looking but couldn't find the price for it. I want one, it would be much easier than having my volume pedal [the wah type] take up space, not to mention less weight.


This would be super easy to make - maybe $30 in parts. You would need:

1 x box
1 x 3PDT stomp switch
1 x LED
1 x LED resistor (say 2k)
1 x battery snap
1 x 9VDC connector
1 x 500k log potentiometer - if it's for high impedance (guitar)
1 x knob
1 x stereo jack
1 x mono jack
Hook-up wire

Edited by - Laurie on 12/04/2008 14:42:15
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zerksies
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Posted - 12/05/2008 :  00:11:19  Show Profile  Send zerksies an AOL message  Click to see zerksies's MSN Messenger address  Send zerksies a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
what a waste for a battery just to power an led
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Laurie
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Canada
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Posted - 12/05/2008 :  00:54:55  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Laurie

quote:
Originally posted by DarrinPA

How much does that cost? I tried looking but couldn't find the price for it. I want one, it would be much easier than having my volume pedal [the wah type] take up space, not to mention less weight.


This would be super easy to make - maybe $30 in parts. You would need:

1 x box
1 x 3PDT stomp switch
1 x LED
1 x LED resistor (say 2k)
1 x battery snap
1 x 9VDC connector
1 x 500k log potentiometer - if it's for high impedance (guitar)
1 x knob
1 x stereo jack
1 x mono jack
Hook-up wire




Skip the LED and the parts list becomes (even cheaper):

1 x box
1 x 2PDT stomp switch
1 x 500k log potentiometer - if it's for high impedance (guitar)
1 x knob
2 x mono jack
Hook-up wire
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DarrinPA
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USA
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Posted - 12/06/2008 :  04:20:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Skip the LED and the parts list becomes (even cheaper):

1 x box
1 x 2PDT stomp switch
1 x 500k log potentiometer - if it's for high impedance (guitar)
1 x knob
2 x mono jack
Hook-up wire



Sweet, I already have all of that, besides a good pedal box and the switch. But I actually want to incorperate it into my SD-1, I'm not sure if the 500k pot will fit but I'm sure I can figure something out. This way I can variably control the volume input at the switch of a button.
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Brutalitarian Supremacy
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USA
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Posted - 12/06/2008 :  17:45:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
was just talking to a buddy bout this the other day....shame on EH for marketing this product like an attenuator...which it isnt... just a volume pedal...many people think this is the answer to getting out of dropping over $300 on a THD Hotplate...wrong...doesn't even remotely do the same thing...a volume pedal YES!! attenuator NO!!! a true ATT. must connect between the amp and cab...period!!!!
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Laurie
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Canada
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Posted - 12/06/2008 :  17:59:34  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hmmm... "attenuator" is an engineering term meaning a device that attenuates "something". It is probably equally valid to talk about a signal level attenuator (this one) and a power attenuator (between speaker and amp).
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Brutalitarian Supremacy
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USA
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Posted - 12/06/2008 :  18:19:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Laurie

Hmmm... "attenuator" is an engineering term meaning a device that attenuates "something". It is probably equally valid to talk about a signal level attenuator (this one) and a power attenuator (between speaker and amp).

agreed...but how many players know that? I think EH knew perfectly well that they would sell some units by passing this thing off as an att....i freq. a few other forums on the net and you wouldn't believe the people that are gassin for this baby because they think it'll take their 100w. amps down to bedroom volume lvl.(it will but your amp isn't really being pushed)...just my opinion that it's a bogus product...so far the only thing EH has done that is worthless....buy a Boss EQ.....it'll do what this thing does in spades ...and more!!!!!!!!
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