Anybody got any ideas? I have a Bcb-60 Pedal board fully loaded with
ALL Boss TU-2 CS-3 Monte allums opto plus mod BD-2 Keeley mod DS-1 Keeley mod TR-2 Keeley mod DD-3. I am using monster Cables Rock Cables on in and out of the board.Using fender Strats and teles Into a Twin Reverb.I put everything on battery power instead of the daisy chain.I tried all of the pedals just buy them selves. and get no signal loss but when i put them all together. I get a loss of bass it does not sound as full when i run direct to the amp. any body got any ideas.
Get the TU-2 out of your chain? Is there an FX send on the Twin you can use instead? Get an EH-2 for the end of your signal path? Did you diagnose the chain by building it up one pedal at a time (to see where the signal loss becomes unbearable for you?) Is it a matter of just dialing in a new tone on your Twin to suit the way the pedals affect your signal?
they say the TU-2 is a tone sucker....but to be honest zerksies i think any pedalboard is a compromise with tone,i know i can get a great sound direct but i also like the range of sounds i can get from my board..i know the wah pedal is a big tone sucker but i'm a sucker for the wah........i know my prob was thinking outside the box with the EQ on my amp... i had the same prob with bass and my marshall head is an old superbass MKII........i never had a presence control on an amp before so i was tending to push it up too much..by pulling back on the pres and treble and upping the mids and bass i now have a decent clean tone...my marshall uses EL84's with converters in the power amp which have more natural treble than EL34's to my ears and changing back to 25 watt greenbacks from the V30's i was using also helped.... but using pedals will always be a compromise IMHO...the other options are to take them out one by one to see if one particular pedal is the problem(maybe one of the modded pedals) or to or what i do is to keep three of them and my TU-12 out of my direct signal by looping them off on a LS-2..but i reckon to do this neatly you might have to change you board,i find it easier if their in two rows if you know what i mean.....
I tried the tu-2 it does not kill any tone.none of then do buy themselves. i gue i will try to build up to see where the tone sucking begins. i tried it out lat night and had no tone loss what so ever.
I had another look at your board on the pedalboards topic....very tidy......the patch cables look like the ones that come with the board...could one of them be a bogey..? i changed my ones to the planet waves kit for pedalboards and there was a big increase in clarity in the sound....
I never noticed a tone loss until I added true bypass loops to my pedal board and could A/B the sound. What a difference. I've got my OD/Distortions run through a 2 loop switcher and chorus & phaser through another two loop switcher. What a difference in tone when all pedals are bypassed versus running the signal through the pedals! I would defintely recommend some loop switchers, but you may not have enough room in the BCB60 to add anything else. My switchers are made by Loop-Master and I love them.
I've also read that a quality buffer at the very front of the chain can make a difference. The article can be found at the Guitar Player website. They did a big piece on pedal boards and include some comments from Pete Cornish about true bypass vs. buffered pedals. Very interesting. Do a search at the website, I'm sure you can find the article.
EDIT: I also moved my TU-2 to a tuner out jack on one of the loopers. I've read it was a tone sucker and wanted it out of the chain.
well i found the problem.It is a few things one is the daisy chain to the pedal board. cleared up with going to battery. and also the cable from my guitar to the board. i guess a monster cable was not the greatest choice i switched to a mogami 2524 cable adjusted the bass a reverb a little problem solved. i can use the daisy chain but i can't put then into the same wall socket. i think i am gonna get one of them HUM X
if its bass youre lacking, i dont think an EH-2 will help you much. in my experience, the EH-2 adds treble.. it might be worth it to pick up a LS-2 and make 2 chains. that way you can have your regular chain and "kick in" certain effects that you only need for one part such as TU-2 and maybe TR-2 depending on where you use it..
if its bass youre lacking, i dont think an EH-2 will help you much. in my experience, the EH-2 adds treble.. it might be worth it to pick up a LS-2 and make 2 chains. that way you can have your regular chain and "kick in" certain effects that you only need for one part such as TU-2 and maybe TR-2 depending on where you use it..
howdy bro'...nice to see you back.....
What strato described is exactly what i do even though i still have some pedals in my direct signal that would be described as tonesuckers as in the Wah pedal... but i set my amp with the pedalboard inline until i get a clean sound i like then i adjust the pedals to suit.....
Signal loss Help
Posted - 11/21/2008 : 00:13:04
...i know my prob was thinking outside the box with the EQ on my amp... i had the same prob with bass and my marshall head is an old superbass MKII.....
...i never had a presence control on an amp before so i was tending to push it up too much..by pulling back on the pres and treble and upping the mids and bass i now have a decent clean tone...my marshall uses EL84's with converters in the power amp which have more natural treble than EL34's to my ears and changing back to 25 watt greenbacks from the V30's i was using also helped.... but using pedals will always be a compromise IMHO...the other options are to take them out one by one to see if one particular pedal is the problem(maybe one of the modded pedals) or to or what i do is to keep three of them and my TU-12 out of my direct signal by looping them off on a LS-2..but i reckon to do this neatly you might have to change you board,i find it easier if their in two rows if you know what i mean.....
....the patch cables look like the ones that come with the board...could one of them be a bogey..? i changed my ones to the planet waves kit for pedalboards and there was a big increase in clarity in the sound....
I would defintely recommend some loop switchers, but you may not have enough room in the BCB60 to add anything else. My switchers are made by Loop-Master and I love them. 