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Noodler
Copper Member

Australia
36 Posts

Posted - 10/15/2009 :  10:37:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi, great forum. Especially love the Boss Mockups thread.

Just some quick newby Q's:

1. When you have your pedals daisy chained, do you have to unplug all your Boss pedals to stop the batteries running down? Seems like a pain every time you want to play to have to do that? Any tips on making it easier? If you don't unplug them, how long will they last turned off?

2. How many stock Boss pedals can be used for Bass? Like Ds-1, PH3, etc?

I had some other questions I'll ask later. Thanks muchly.

zerksies
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USA
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Posted - 10/15/2009 :  14:17:04  Show Profile  Send zerksies an AOL message  Click to see zerksies's MSN Messenger address  Send zerksies a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
hi welcome to the forum.
answer to first question. is boss pedals are on even when the light is off, they have buffers in them to make the sound go through them. you just have to unplug the right hand side of the pedal.
The answer to the second question. you can use any pedal to use for bass you just have to try it out. some might sound great and some with sound horrible.the only pedal that i know you can not use for bass is the ge-7.they have an eq made for bass.cause bass used diffrent frequencies then guitar, as far as i know the rest can be used for bass
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Dirk
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Netherlands
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Posted - 10/15/2009 :  17:09:40  Show Profile  Visit Dirk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
You could still use the GE-7, depending on what you want from it.
The GE-7 can't boost 62Hz, since that slider's not on it, you'd need the GE-7b or GEB-7 for that, but it can boost or cut up to 6.4kHz just fine.

The rest depends on taste, there's also a lot of pedals eating low end, the SD-1, DS-1 and AW-3 are fine examples of this, as well as the CS-3 to a much lesser degree.

On the opposite, I found the PH-1r boosting the low end a little.

Edited by - Dirk on 10/15/2009 17:11:06
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Joske Turbo
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Belgium
412 Posts

Posted - 10/15/2009 :  17:31:31  Show Profile  Visit Joske Turbo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I use my BF-2 sometimes with bass, no low end loss at all. As Dirk said, the DS-1 eats up low end and if you keep the the dist knob under 12 o' clock you don't get a distortion but more a volume boost with low end loss and background noise. I haven't tried other pedals with bass, but some will work good I think.
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PaulH
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Posted - 10/15/2009 :  19:50:28  Show Profile  Visit PaulH's Homepage  Reply with Quote
All pedals eventually eat batteries.
Time-based effects (modulations/delays) are worst.

The newer digital pedals can finish a good set of batteries after a few hours.


You'll soon find that an AC supply is better.
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zerksies
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USA
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Posted - 10/16/2009 :  03:56:20  Show Profile  Send zerksies an AOL message  Click to see zerksies's MSN Messenger address  Send zerksies a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PaulH

All pedals eventually eat batteries.
Time-based effects (modulations/delays) are worst.

The newer digital pedals can finish a good set of batteries after a few hours.


You'll soon find that an AC supply is better.

But then you will find the joy of ground loop hum
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Noodler
Copper Member

Australia
36 Posts

Posted - 10/19/2009 :  18:10:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi guys and thanks for your replies.

I'm actually a guitarist, but am looking at picking up bass as well, so I was wondering if my Boss pedals would be useful for bass as well eg PH3. I know the Big Muff (non-Boss) can, and some pedals like the OC3 have a bass input. As long as I can't hurt them, I'll just try them out. Thanks.

I use either batteries or daisy-chain 5 at a time max. The noise hasn't bothered me yet because our power is noisy anyway and I'm used to it.

If I did a true-bypass mod to my pedals, would that mean I could leave them all plugged in? Or do people sometimes add an on/off switch instead?

Hang on a sec, if you don't use batteries, but use a power supply instead, you could just turn off the mains power, huh? And leave your set up as is bteween sessions. Right?

Although I think if you left a battery in there it would still run down, because the buffer would kick in when the power to the barrel adapter was turned off.

Hungriest pedal- RC-2.

Great forum, BTW. Expecting an "ebay Tantaliser" pedal any day now. It's a Monte Allum modded DS-1. Happy days!
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PaulH
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535 Posts

Posted - 10/19/2009 :  18:23:21  Show Profile  Visit PaulH's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Noodler
... so I was wondering if my Boss pedals would be useful for bass as well eg PH3.




You can use them with anything, not just guitar.
They are just an effect pedal.
A lot of keyboard players use them.

I've used them with lots of different string & wind instruments, and vocals.
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Noodler
Copper Member

Australia
36 Posts

Posted - 10/20/2009 :  12:08:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When keyboarders talk about a "squeeze box" is that like a CS-3 then?
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DasBeef
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/20/2009 :  12:43:58  Show Profile  Visit DasBeef's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I always thought a 'Squeeze Box' was an Accordion or similar instrument?
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PaulH
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Posted - 10/20/2009 :  18:42:48  Show Profile  Visit PaulH's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Noodler

When keyboarders talk about a "squeeze box" is that like a CS-3 then?



No it's an accordion/concertina etc.
However, if you're listening to a Who track... it's something completely different.
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stinkfoot
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Sweden
181 Posts

Posted - 10/20/2009 :  20:41:30  Show Profile  Visit stinkfoot's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Noodler

If I did a true-bypass mod to my pedals, would that mean I could leave them all plugged in? Or do people sometimes add an on/off switch instead?
True bypass doesn't change the way the pedal is powered, so you'd still have to either unplug the cable from the input jack (if you're on battery power) or unplug the adapter from the mains power (if you're using adapter power).

quote:
Hang on a sec, if you don't use batteries, but use a power supply instead, you could just turn off the mains power, huh? And leave your set up as is bteween sessions. Right?
Yup.

quote:
Although I think if you left a battery in there it would still run down, because the buffer would kick in when the power to the barrel adapter was turned off.
The adapter jack in the pedal has a small switch inside, which disconnects the battery as soon as there's a plug in the adapter jack. So turning the mains power off works fine. The pedals will not draw battery power as long as there's a plug in the adapter jack.

You can also use this to your advantage, if you have a pedal that works best off battery power. Instead of wrestling with the input cable (which can be cumbersome if the pedal is on a pedalboard, sitting in the middle of a pedal chain), simply insert an adapter plug in the DC jack, and the pedal will shut down.

/Andreas
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