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kimm
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USA
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Posted - 04/29/2009 :  23:53:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just bought the DD7 and am curious as to why it defaults to ON when I turn on my pedalboard. It is the only Boss pedal to do that. Is there any way to change that, as having it default to ON is not desirable? Thanks.

Laurie
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Posted - 04/30/2009 :  02:15:59  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi kimm and welcome!

I believe that's the way it is programmed - it is a heavily digital device and does not use a flip-flop like many other Boss pedals.
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nosi0
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Netherlands
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Posted - 04/30/2009 :  03:05:28  Show Profile  Visit nosi0's Homepage  Click to see nosi0's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
The DD-7 is certainly not the only one. Some of the older pedals you can indeed switch their initial mode by a little soldering mod but with a highly digital pedal like Laurie said i doubt it would be that easy if at all possible.
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kimm
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USA
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Posted - 04/30/2009 :  04:23:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Why would they choose to program it to default ON? That does not seem very practical for the working musician.
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Laurie
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Posted - 04/30/2009 :  04:30:29  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Dunno... my DD-20 and CE-20 (also very digital) are the same. Guess it had to be one or the other
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Sray10
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USA
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Posted - 04/30/2009 :  04:42:26  Show Profile  Visit Sray10's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I have notice that some pedals default to on when battery powered, but do not when powered by a adapter or daisy chain. At one time I had a total of 15 ( out of 56 ) that defaulted to on when powered by Power supply and daisy chain.
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Laurie
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Canada
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Posted - 04/30/2009 :  14:48:03  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sray10

I have notice that some pedals default to on when battery powered, but do not when powered by a adapter or daisy chain. At one time I had a total of 15 ( out of 56 ) that defaulted to on when powered by Power supply and daisy chain.

All the pedals that use a flip-flop to control the FET switching have the potential to default to either ON or OFF. And can be modded to be one or the other...

The pedals with microprocessor control (DD-7, DD-20, CE-20, others) have the initial ON or OFF state determined by the software, and unless there is a parameter in the pedal to change, it is not moddable.
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kimm
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Posted - 04/30/2009 :  20:41:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is there an advantage for the musician or a logical reason why Boss would program them to default to ON?
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Laurie
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Posted - 04/30/2009 :  21:12:09  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kimm

Is there an advantage for the musician or a logical reason why Boss would program them to default to ON?

I'm sure that in a back-room somewhere in Japan there is someone with an excellent reason for this

My guess would be that when you do the power-up you can see the pedal is working because the LED comes on.
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DeFrag
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Posted - 04/30/2009 :  21:46:51  Show Profile  Visit DeFrag's Homepage  Click to see DeFrag's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
The only thing I can think of is a controller like the SCC-700 that might engage effects by powering them on. I thought a couple Boss effects incorporate a lag during power-on (DD-7?) that wouldn't be conducive to seamless control, whatever.. just an idea.
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