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Dingus
Silver Member

USA
472 Posts

Posted - 07/31/2008 :  20:41:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Folks, after a long search to find a DM-2 at a semi-reasonable price, I finally found a gentleman who was willing to trade me for my DD-3 (MIT Version) + $50 for his DM-2. I only paid $50 for that DD-3 from a pawn shop, so for $100 I've got myself a DM-2, and it's AMAZING! It sounds so damn good, leagues above my DM-3. After getting the DM-3 first, I figured all the DM-2 talk was just hype, but I can now confirm, that the talk is true.

This particular DM-2 is from October 1981, and is the First version of DM-2, with the MN3005 BBD, MN3101 Clock Driver, and yes it Self-Oscillates beautifully! Happy Day!

Rock On!

sp-1
Platinum Member

Germany
1454 Posts

Posted - 07/31/2008 :  22:37:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nice deal congrats
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member

Ireland
3543 Posts

Posted - 08/01/2008 :  05:02:14  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
well done.......now you have me G.A.Ssing for a analog delay.........
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zentropa
Gold Member

USA
837 Posts

Posted - 08/01/2008 :  22:45:07  Show Profile  Send zentropa an AOL message  Reply with Quote
the DM-2 is sweet. definitely a more pure and uncolored delay tone than any other pedal from boss.

i just picked one up and it's replacing my DM-3.
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Leeroyfunk
Silver Member

United Kingdom
400 Posts

Posted - 08/02/2008 :  11:43:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by zentropa

definitely a more pure and uncolored delay tone than any other pedal from boss.


Doesn't the quality of the repeats degrade? Isn't that the reason people like analog delays when compared with "cold, sterile accurate" digital delays?
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jaymzHal
Silver Member

United Kingdom
297 Posts

Posted - 08/02/2008 :  14:02:48  Show Profile  Visit jaymzHal's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Leeroyfunk

quote:
Originally posted by zentropa

definitely a more pure and uncolored delay tone than any other pedal from boss.


Doesn't the quality of the repeats degrade? Isn't that the reason people like analog delays when compared with "cold, sterile accurate" digital delays?



The quality doesn't degrade in a bad way but each repeat loses some treble. The tone itself is very pure and warm, so I suppose "musical" would be a better description - the colouring helps it sit in the mix, rather than confusing what you are playing.

My DM-2 is also the first version and self oscillates, Congratulations on the deal Dingus! I wouldn't say no to a backup DM-2 for �50
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member

Canada
4854 Posts

Posted - 08/03/2008 :  15:11:13  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by zentropa

the DM-2 is sweet. definitely a more pure and uncolored delay tone than any other pedal from boss.

i just picked one up and it's replacing my DM-3.



Hah!! My new-to-me DM-3 is just replacing my DM-2
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zentropa
Gold Member

USA
837 Posts

Posted - 08/03/2008 :  21:09:54  Show Profile  Send zentropa an AOL message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Doesn't the quality of the repeats degrade? Isn't that the reason people like analog delays when compared with "cold, sterile accurate" digital delays?


yah, the sound loses about 30% of its treble with each echo as jaymz said.

i never use delay with more than 1 echo so my focus is on the tone of the first echo. digi delays tend to decay without that problem, but the initial echo has much less warmth/character to it... and usually very trebly as well in comparison.
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Leeroyfunk
Silver Member

United Kingdom
400 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2008 :  01:02:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by zentropa
i never use delay with more than 1 echo so my focus is on the tone of the first echo. digi delays tend to decay without that problem, but the initial echo has much less warmth/character to it... and usually very trebly as well in comparison.



But no more trebly than your direct tone, right?
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the-destructor
Silver Member

USA
334 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2008 :  02:06:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey Laurie,
Wanna lose your DM-2??? Pass all the flamin hamsters you could possibly ever need. I'll even wear chain mail while preforming said act. AAAAAAAAAAAHHHH ---- Destroy!!!!

Edited by - the-destructor on 08/04/2008 02:07:03
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zentropa
Gold Member

USA
837 Posts

Posted - 08/04/2008 :  07:26:44  Show Profile  Send zentropa an AOL message  Reply with Quote
quote:
But no more trebly than your direct tone, right?


actually, digi delays tend to be brighter than your direct tone... they tend to eat the low end and low mids a bit and reproduce a lot of headroom on the treble side of things beyond what your guitar is capable of producing. e.g. many guitar pickups don't push anything > 7khz but you can hear on a digi delay all the freq's as white noise up to like 12khz.

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visserman
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1072 Posts

Posted - 08/05/2008 :  20:20:03  Show Profile  Visit visserman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Have many people here heard different analogue delays? What about digital delays?

DM-2 is nice, but I cannot see the hype. There is the DOD FX90, which you can buy for much cheaper with a bit of luck, and its sound is as good or perhaps even better.

The self-occilation? Well you can make them do that if it does not do it. I would have thought they all do it when you max out your controls.

Okay, it is not that I do not like the pedal, but I can reproduce its sound with other delays, so feel therefore it is not unique. I cannot be alone in this feeling I guess.

Perhaps people just like it because of the collecting thing and it being a Boss. Is is bad to admit that there is a DOD out there which is as good?


DOD does even have some digital delays which have an analogue sound. They are not as clear as the Boss digital ones --heh they are inferior in quality really--, and some of those also sound very close to the DM-2.



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zentropa
Gold Member

USA
837 Posts

Posted - 08/05/2008 :  23:15:15  Show Profile  Send zentropa an AOL message  Reply with Quote
i've heard plenty of both kinds.

i'm not a huge delay fan, but i've heard good ones and bad ones.

imo, the old rackmount analog delay units from ibanez were the best i've heard.

i prefer the DM-2 to DM-3, but i prefer a vintage ibanez AD9 to either.

DOD pedals in general are under the radar and under-valued. the super stereo chorus is one of my favorite chorus pedals of all time. their analog delay isn't bad and is decent for the money. does DOD have a chorus i like as much as a CE-2? no. does ibanez? yes, with the CS9. are any better than the other? the boss ones outlast em both.

people vary on their preferences. is a DM-2 worth $75 more than a DM-2? imo, no. to many, yes, as there's a greater prestige factor w/ the DM-2 for a minor sonic upgrade.

dunno where i'm going with this if anywhere heh.
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tazzboy
Copper Member

USA
46 Posts

Posted - 08/06/2008 :  04:48:16  Show Profile  Send tazzboy an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
I've heard the DM-2 is a lot warmer then DM-3 is that true?
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zentropa
Gold Member

USA
837 Posts

Posted - 08/06/2008 :  04:53:30  Show Profile  Send zentropa an AOL message  Reply with Quote
tazzboy:

no. the DM-3's "noise reduction" seems to trim off the extreme upper frequencies. while this cuts some of the white noise it also seems to "shrink" the overall sound spectrum. warmth difference... not really. spatial difference, yes. i would describe the DM-2 as "slightly fuller" sounding than a DM-3.

both are worlds warmer than digi delays.

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tazzboy
Copper Member

USA
46 Posts

Posted - 08/09/2008 :  07:18:19  Show Profile  Send tazzboy an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
Ok cause I have the DM-3 and was wondering if it DM-2 is any better.
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