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Tele_Man
Bronze Member
USA
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 Posted - 02/13/2008 : 22:57:24
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I've just had push/pull switches added to a guitar so I can split the humbuckers. I am anticipating a volume drop between the full humbucker and split modes when I play. Consequenttly, I've been toying with the idea of picking up an LS-2 to address the problem. My thinking is I can run the guitar through one loop with full humbuckers. When splitting the humbuckers, I can switch to the other loop to which I can add a little boost to even out the volume. My questions are:
1. Will this work?
2. How would I want to actually run the cables through the LS-2 to make this work?
3. Is there a better and/or easier option to address the volume difference? [I don't want to mess with a volume pedal; I want a one stomp solution]
If anyone can answer these questions, it's the BOSS gurus on these forums.
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sirshack
Copper Member
USA
41 Posts |
Posted - 02/14/2008 : 00:43:57
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Sounds like it would work to me, if I'm picturing it right, but it also sounds overly compicated for what you're looking to do. Why not get something like a GE-7 or MXR Micro Amp and just put it in your normal signal chain?
As an aside, you probably will experience a volume drop but it might not be as drastic as you think.
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Tele_Man
Bronze Member
USA
86 Posts |
Posted - 02/14/2008 : 01:05:58
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Didn't consider a GE-7 as an option. I never thought about using the overall level to boost the signal. That is far less complicated then the LS-2. Plus I can shape the EQ as an added bonus.
I'm not what to expect yet for the volume drop. I pick the guitar up this weekend. The only reason I'm concerned is because the pickups are relatively weak humbuckers to begin with (DiMarzio EJ Customs). Splitting the coils will just weaken them more.
Thanks for the suggestion. I love your idea much better than mine. I'm planning on getting an LS-2 regardless to split my signal into a clean loop and a dirty loop. Now I have an excuse to pickup another pedal!  |
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pedals 4 pv
Platinum Member
Canada
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Posted - 02/14/2008 : 02:51:35
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Hi Teleman and guys
The coil splits can be wired in such a fashion that a resistance is switched into the circuit, parallel to the volume potentiometer, reducing overall resistance to compensate for the loss of the output from the coil that is removed from the circuit. I have a diagram in a book, but maybe someone has a good link to a guitar wiring site. There might be other ways to this as well, but if your guitar is being modified by an expert this should be done for you in some way already, and you shouldn't notice much volume drop. |
Edited by - pedals 4 pv on 02/14/2008 03:19:38 |
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sirshack
Copper Member
USA
41 Posts |
Posted - 02/14/2008 : 03:34:37
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Thanks for the suggestion. I love your idea much better than mine. I'm planning on getting an LS-2 regardless to split my signal into a clean loop and a dirty loop. Now I have an excuse to pickup another pedal!
No problem...buying more pedals is what it's all about!
I actually used a GE-7 back in the day to compensate for the wildly mismatched pickups I had in my Strat at the time and it worked great. I actually set it for a very slight midboost on top of the volume boost to give the quieter pickup a little more girth as well as act as a boost for the other two pickups whenever necessary. It really added a lot of tonal options on top of just volume. |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
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Posted - 02/14/2008 : 15:00:15
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Originally posted by pedals 4 pv
Hi Teleman and guys
The coil splits can be wired in such a fashion that a resistance is switched into the circuit, parallel to the volume potentiometer, reducing overall resistance to compensate for the loss of the output from the coil that is removed from the circuit. I have a diagram in a book, but maybe someone has a good link to a guitar wiring site. There might be other ways to this as well, but if your guitar is being modified by an expert this should be done for you in some way already, and you shouldn't notice much volume drop.
the seymour duncan website is pretty good for pickup wiring diagrams and www.guitarelectronics.com used to have a lot of stuff on theirs as well..... |
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Leeroyfunk
Silver Member
United Kingdom
400 Posts |
Posted - 02/14/2008 : 15:52:52
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Originally posted by Tele_Man
2. How would I want to actually run the cables through the LS-2 to make this work?
The LS-2 will work brilliantly to address any volume level discrepancies, will give you two independent levels of boost, and since the volume level controls affect the preamp level on the return side of each loop, they will boost or cut the volume of your guitar signal even if there is nothing in the loop.
Plug the cable from your guitar into the input and plug a cable from the output to your amp: Set the LS-2 to A->B->bypass mode, and line up both A and B volume controls at twelve o'clock (unity gain). Stepping through the loops should result in identical volume levels for A, B and bypass. Now turn the level control for A up to 1 o'clock, and level B to around 3 o'clock (CAREFUL, there is a large amount of volume boost available) - Stepping on the pedal should now give a small boost on loop A, a massive boost on B and your original unaffected volume level on bypass: Simply set the relative levels to suit your needs. |
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visserman
Platinum Member
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Posted - 02/14/2008 : 17:01:03
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Originally posted by Leeroyfunk
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Originally posted by Tele_Man
2. How would I want to actually run the cables through the LS-2 to make this work?
The LS-2 will work brilliantly to address any volume level discrepancies, will give you two independent levels of boost, and since the volume level controls affect the preamp level on the return side of each loop, they will boost or cut the volume of your guitar signal even if there is nothing in the loop.
Plug the cable from your guitar into the input and plug a cable from the output to your amp: Set the LS-2 to A->B->bypass mode, and line up both A and B volume controls at twelve o'clock (unity gain). Stepping through the loops should result in identical volume levels for A, B and bypass. Now turn the level control for A up to 1 o'clock, and level B to around 3 o'clock (CAREFUL, there is a large amount of volume boost available) - Stepping on the pedal should now give a small boost on loop A, a massive boost on B and your original unaffected volume level on bypass: Simply set the relative levels to suit your needs.
This man has said it all, and yes it work a treat, and you do not even need extra cables, just plug in the LS2 and choose a mode and there you go. Very useful pedal the LS2, a minimixer and all the things in between. Boss's true NUMBER ONE which you can use ALL THE TIME. |
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pedals 4 pv
Platinum Member
Canada
1351 Posts |
Posted - 02/14/2008 : 21:24:26
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Originally posted by FRANZONI
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Originally posted by pedals 4 pv
Hi Teleman and guys
The coil splits can be wired in such a fashion that a resistance is switched into the circuit, parallel to the volume potentiometer, reducing overall resistance to compensate for the loss of the output from the coil that is removed from the circuit. I have a diagram in a book, but maybe someone has a good link to a guitar wiring site. There might be other ways to this as well, but if your guitar is being modified by an expert this should be done for you in some way already, and you shouldn't notice much volume drop.
the seymour duncan website is pretty good for pickup wiring diagrams and www.guitarelectronics.com used to have a lot of stuff on theirs as well.....
Thanks Franzoni, good site |
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Tele_Man
Bronze Member
USA
86 Posts |
Posted - 02/14/2008 : 21:32:30
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Thanks for all the great suggestions. The LS-2 sounds like one hell of a flexible pedal. I though I might have to run cables straight from the send to the return for each loop.
I think I'm going to get the LS-2 to run separate loops for my clean tone and my dirty tone. This will allow me to add a little boost to compensate for the slight volume drop with my TR-2.
I'm going to pick up a GE-7 too, to provide boost for split hb's and for some tone shaping.
Thanks again for all the great advice. |
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LS-2 as a Booster?
