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timbo
Silver Member
 
Australia
252 Posts |
Posted - 12/15/2008 : 08:36:07
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| i used to use anything when i started out, then i used those grey dunlop ones (66mm or something i think...) but now i use dunlop 71mm (the gator ones that are pinky-purple). im not a fan of soft or hard, more of a middle man! |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
    
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 12/15/2008 : 13:12:49
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I'm pretty much still the same as the last answers i gave on the other related topics...still using 1mm dunlop black tortex and still trying to master the Danny Gatton/Albert Lee hybrid picking thing.....  |
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Right Foot Boss
Gold Member
  
USA
881 Posts |
Posted - 12/15/2008 : 14:27:56
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quote: Originally posted by Goran
I always had problems with the pick rotating in my hand,
The same ting happens to me Goran. That is another reason why I'm interested in v-picks. Jack, do they really stick to your fingers? |
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verivorax
Platinum Member
   
Canada
1185 Posts |
Posted - 12/15/2008 : 14:44:24
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quote: Originally posted by zerksies
they make the ultex in a vareity of sizes i an using .60mm it think i goes .60,.73,.88,1.0,1.14 so much clearer of a tone. i was thinking that the hardness of the pick would make it sound bright at first, but actually it the clearness of the note. i reccomend just trying out a set. it's only about 5 dollars for a set of 6 in the stores. i picked up a set off ebay for 3 dollars and free shipping
I've never seen the ULTEX in other thicknesses. good to know! I think it's Dunlop's best product (esp. since pedal production seems to be shifting to China!). I like the hockeypuck kind of softness it gives, but still allowing great clarity. Very unlikely to break too.. in the thicker sizes. |
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member
    
USA
3406 Posts |
Posted - 12/16/2008 : 03:12:36
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quote: Originally posted by Right Foot Boss
quote: Originally posted by Goran
I always had problems with the pick rotating in my hand,
The same ting happens to me Goran. That is another reason why I'm interested in v-picks. Jack, do they really stick to your fingers?
I never have picks fall out of my hands |
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jack
Platinum Member
   
USA
1418 Posts |
Posted - 12/16/2008 : 04:26:55
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quote: Originally posted by Right Foot Boss
quote: Originally posted by Goran
I always had problems with the pick rotating in my hand,
The same ting happens to me Goran. That is another reason why I'm interested in v-picks. Jack, do they really stick to your fingers?
I find that they do, especially when they are new or freshly cleaned, because after awhile dirt, sweat, and body oils can build up on them, affecting the "sticky" effect so you clean them. Its weird though, cause its a thicker pick (2.25mm), that I don't grip as tightly as I did the Dunlops, but even though I don't grip it as tightly, I don't drop it...I used to have to etch Xs on both sides of my picks in order to keep a good grip on them, and would still drop them or have them slide out. I haven't had these issues since using them, plus they seemed to have given my picking some of the clarity I sacrificed to get the attack I was looking for when I was using Dunlop Sharps...Since using the Medium Pointed V-Picks, I get the attack I like with all the clarity. |
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dcross02
Copper Member
USA
47 Posts |
Posted - 12/16/2008 : 17:08:30
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| I used the Fender 351 Premium Celluloid guitar picks for both acoustic and electric. They last forever! |
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
    
Australia
6593 Posts |
Posted - 12/17/2008 : 14:57:02
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Hi zerksies & Guys
I just picked (no pun intended ) up a couple of 0.73mm Dunlop ULTEX picks.
Surprisingly for a 0.73mm pick, the ULTEX is fairly stiff, but has an inherent rubbreriness, is there is such a word
They are a strange looking oily translucent yellow. They feel pretty good to the touch.
I will report back later, after I have played with them for a bit, On different guitars (Acoustic & electric), as well on a few different string gauges.
The place I picked them up from, only had the 0.73mm size. And sold them for 50 cents Australian each..
Perhaps verivorax, can tell us a bit more about these picks
Regards Dr. Bob  |
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Brutalitarian Supremacy
Silver Member
 
USA
270 Posts |
Posted - 12/18/2008 : 00:20:13
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quote: Originally posted by verivorax
quote: Originally posted by zerksies
they make the ultex in a vareity of sizes i an using .60mm it think i goes .60,.73,.88,1.0,1.14 so much clearer of a tone. i was thinking that the hardness of the pick would make it sound bright at first, but actually it the clearness of the note. i reccomend just trying out a set. it's only about 5 dollars for a set of 6 in the stores. i picked up a set off ebay for 3 dollars and free shipping
I've never seen the ULTEX in other thicknesses. good to know! I think it's Dunlop's best product (esp. since pedal production seems to be shifting to China!). I like the hockeypuck kind of softness it gives, but still allowing great clarity. Very unlikely to break too.. in the thicker sizes.
...me and a buddy went to summer NAMM O2 in Nashville and somebody gave us a box of Dunlop ULTEX picks(73mm)as free swag....5 yrs later still using those baby's...they can take some abuse! |
Edited by - Brutalitarian Supremacy on 12/20/2008 14:39:34 |
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member
    
USA
3406 Posts |
Posted - 12/19/2008 : 00:31:00
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| i actually like them. really surprized it did so much for my tone |
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verivorax
Platinum Member
   
Canada
1185 Posts |
Posted - 12/19/2008 : 02:58:54
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Dr.Bob - your description is better than I could say it!
The normal shape Ultex is pretty smooth - the Jazz III version has a bit more of a rough feel to it - maybe it's just some talc(?) like on the gator-dunlops.
They remind me of the old art-gum erasers a little - that's that rubbery feel you mentioned. Something about that softness kills much of the string clack-and-squeak. Like I said before, the Ultex is the closest I've found to the ebony picks I have and love. Heavy or Extra-Heavy Fender classic celluloid is similar in some ways.. it has a bit of that texture under your finger - almost indiscernible.
panzerotti's ready. mmm.  |
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visserman
Platinum Member
   
1072 Posts |
Posted - 12/19/2008 : 16:46:52
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quote: Originally posted by zerksies
I don't know if this has been done yet but here we go.In the past few months since joining this forum. i have been thinking about every aspect of tone, which i have not been doing for many, many years. Well i have been using Jim Dunlop 3.0mm big stubby picks . i could hold about 5 other peoples picks in my hands. they felt good. and sounded good. I was doing alot of jazz at the time i picked these up.So as we age or musical styles change. so i was thinking about picks. then i came across this article.
http://www.premierguitar.com/Magazine/Issue/2008/Dec/The_Spectrum_of_Plectrum.aspx
Well it made me think about picks. so i switched to Jim Dunlop Tortex .60mm hell of a drop from 3.0mm. they sounded good but i felt like i needed more.So i read the article and came across the ultex picks. And OH MY GOD. the clarity of the notes come out so much. it not funny. I am gonna stay with these picks of awhile.So something as small as a pick can change your tone that much. So what picks do you use?
Picks? Plectrums you mean , heh it is like this guy can read my mind.
Last Saturday a pupil borrowed a Gibson Heavy pick, after the lessons he forgot to give it back to me. I will not see him for about 3 weeks, and I am pretty sure by then he will have lost it. Not a big deal since picks ahuum, plectrums are fairly cheap, but be warned their price is on the up, and has been for a while.
After the lesson I check if I had any other Gibson plectrums of that gauge, and I discovered I did not. As we all get used to what use daily I went to the shop with the thought of just getting some more Gibson picks. To my surprise I could not find the shape of the Gibson pick I had, yes I could find heavy ones, but they had a different shape. To compensate for that loss I looked through all their other picks and bought quite a few Dunlopp ones I felt I did not have.
On my way back home I was kind of annoyed about buying that many picks when I usually use the Jazz II ones. "Will I really use any of those new ones then"? I askes myself.
Ones at home I examined the collection of my other picks and dicovered that the new dunlop ones were really different and some of them did have a nice feel and tone, especially the Tortex ones.
Now I have quite a few 1 mm ones, and I feel I really like picks from about 0.73 mm onwards. The nylon dunlop ones give a nice crispy sound. Going up in gauge you get a fatter tone [heh I am not telling you anything new here since most of you are tonehounds and anal pickers anyway].
Since most of us on this site are collectors, I now proudley own the whole family of the Jazz Dunlop range, and guess what? Jazz I sounds better to my ears than Jazz III. Jazz I is almost like those small 1.00 mm stubby picks [they used to do them in See-through-Colours, just to make sure you would keep buying them, but they changed them now to red, this is probably to make us buy now red, so you can add those new coloured ones to your collection as well.............!!]
For anyone who has been using the same kind of gauge pick I would say get the whole range and dig in, and see how it will change your mind about tone, playing and your appetite in general.
Have fun, but be sensible with your spending budget on plectrums, maybe wait until the January sale for your big pick hunt.
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verivorax
Platinum Member
   
Canada
1185 Posts |
Posted - 12/19/2008 : 19:26:00
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if we're being technical, the plural of "plectrum" is "plectra".. 
Anyone here tried stone or bone plectra? |
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visserman
Platinum Member
   
1072 Posts |
Posted - 12/20/2008 : 10:37:25
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You are damn right about the plural form, I should have know better.
I would be quite interested in trying a bone-or stone plectrum, but have not yet.
What I did try, a long time ago though, is a styli pick, it is a practice pick which gets you to play with the point more efficiently. I liked it then as I was working a lot on my picking technique. For normal playing the styli is not that good, rather limiting.
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August West
Bronze Member

USA
137 Posts |
Posted - 12/20/2008 : 15:12:02
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| I have two stone (Brazillian agate) picks - one at 1.5 mm and one at 4 mm. The 1.5 mm pick is interesting but not my favorite. It makes more string noise which is not good and also tends to make a loud clacking noise aganust the pickguard but the tone itself is interesting. The 4 mm pick is actually for a bass guitar. I bouhgt it just for kicks and it is really unusable for an electric or acoustic. It is so mellow all the high end tone is gone. |
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