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Dingus
Silver Member

USA
472 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2005 :  23:16:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,

I was curious to as if the MIJ version of the CS-3 sounded better or works better than the MIT version. And if in general that the older ones the CS-1 and CS-2 just blow the CS-3 out of the water. Also is the CS-1 bound to die because of the photocouplers? And in relation to that same question are photocouplers easily found and replaced?

Sorry about all the questions just trying to figure this one out. Let me know guys.

boss freak
Gold Member

USA
663 Posts

Posted - 09/28/2005 :  01:04:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm curious about the CS1 question as well since mine is dead.
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arcanon1313
Silver Member

USA
414 Posts

Posted - 09/28/2005 :  01:59:43  Show Profile  Click to see arcanon1313's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I have a CS-2, and to my ears it sounds alot better than the CS-3. It's alot more natural sounding than the CS-3 (which tends to sound kind of harsh to me but sometimes harsh is a good thing). as to the question of the difference in sound between a MIJ and a MIT model some will say it sounds different, and some will say no difference at all. As to the Photocouplers if you need to find some for replacements try smallbear electronics. they tend to have almost anything your looking for. www.smallbearelec.com
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axewinner
Copper Member

USA
43 Posts

Posted - 09/28/2005 :  03:46:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jacob,

The mij CS-3 is WAY BETTER than the mit!!! The most profound difference is the mij version is dead quiet. Hear them side to side and you won't believe they are the same peddle, and you'd be right!

Congrats on the mij!

axewiz
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axewinner
Copper Member

USA
43 Posts

Posted - 09/28/2005 :  04:16:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Arcanon,

How does the mij CS-2 and mij CS-3 compare? Any difference?
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Goran
Double Platinum Member

Sweden
2203 Posts

Posted - 09/28/2005 :  07:02:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have both CS-2 and CS-3 (both MIJ) and I like CS-2 a lot more. Why?
You don�t "notice" that you have a compressor on, CS-2 is very smooth, it doesn�t color your sound nearly as much as CS-3. And CS-3 have something that do something at the start of a note.
I have never used a MIT CS-3 so I couldn�t say anything about that.
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axewinner
Copper Member

USA
43 Posts

Posted - 09/28/2005 :  07:12:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Goran, now I have to get one. Sounds awesome!
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bossarea
Forum Admin

United Kingdom
3652 Posts

Posted - 09/28/2005 :  12:12:59  Show Profile  Visit bossarea's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I've compared the 2 over the last couple of weeks and found that I prefer my MIT CS-3 to the MIJ CS-2. The CS-3 can compress the sound more while the CS-2 tends to muffle the sound in a way that I don't like. I can't find any difference in noise levels but the CS-2 colours the sound more in off mode.

It just proves that sound is very subjective and we will never agree
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Dingus
Silver Member

USA
472 Posts

Posted - 09/28/2005 :  16:52:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
but we can state as fact that the MIT CS-3 is much more noisy than the MIJ one?
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Dingus
Silver Member

USA
472 Posts

Posted - 09/28/2005 :  18:11:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And Boss Freak: can you open up your CS-1 and tell us what kind of photocouplers are in it? or read whatever you can off of them?
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Goran
Double Platinum Member

Sweden
2203 Posts

Posted - 09/30/2005 :  08:20:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah, evaluating sound is VERY subjective, and we all have different standards (what we want). There ain�t no technically complicated pedal-analyzer yet...
It also depends a lot to what music we play, a bluesplayer and a Heavy metal player have quite different views.
When comparing pedals don�t too much, everthing will sound veeeeeeeery good...
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Britsie
Bronze Member

Belgium
92 Posts

Posted - 09/30/2005 :  09:17:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That's a thought Goran. When we have a pedal that sounds shitty, just and it will sound good...
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arcanon1313
Silver Member

USA
414 Posts

Posted - 09/30/2005 :  18:59:45  Show Profile  Click to see arcanon1313's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I also like the like the CS-2 because David Gilmour uses one and I can (sort of) cop his tone with it. But I will probably buy a CS-3 also so I have the best of both worlds. Lamma riders mount up!
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boss freak
Gold Member

USA
663 Posts

Posted - 10/02/2005 :  04:02:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't have my CS1 out with me right now, but I'll open it up and post it when I get home in a few weeks.

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pawnshop_trash
Gold Member

USA
603 Posts

Posted - 10/02/2005 :  06:48:29  Show Profile  Visit pawnshop_trash's Homepage  Reply with Quote
a bit OT, but since Goran mentioned a 'technically complicated pedal-analyzer' above, what can we do to quantify the specs of Boss pedals (or anyone's pedals, for that matter)?

for example, it might be nice to quantify exactly how much bass rolloff a pedal provides, so you'd have data on how suitable a pedal would be for bass guitar (or baritone guitar, or drop-tunings, or ...). we know that except the first-series momentary-LED pedals, Boss OD-1s have quite a bit of bass rolloff, but below what frequency is that rolloff noticeable? would it be possible to make sort of a Boss-pedal equivalent to a speaker frequency response diagram? there has to be a simple software package that could do this for us; does anyone have any ideas?

oh, and more on-topic... I haven't heard the other Boss compressors, but I have nothing good to say about the MIT CS-3. that's the only Boss pedal I've ever sold.
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bossarea
Forum Admin

United Kingdom
3652 Posts

Posted - 10/03/2005 :  11:28:53  Show Profile  Visit bossarea's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It would definitely be possible to quantify some characteristics. The easiest one would be the frequency response. It would have to be measured with different pedal settings to get the complete picture and it will not tell us anything about distortion or any effect that the pedal provides. It will only tell us a bit about how trebly or how much bass roll-off we got.
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