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Foulacy
Bronze Member

USA
65 Posts

Posted - 01/15/2010 :  22:17:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yes, actually both C6 and C7 are changed in the mod. one remains the same and the other he bumps up to .1uF. I guess I'll be swapping them out and seeing how it sounds.

Edited by - Foulacy on 01/15/2010 22:18:04
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Scarymonsta
Bronze Member

United Kingdom
90 Posts

Posted - 01/15/2010 :  23:06:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would leave C006 and C007 as the original value of 47nF (0.047). Changing the value or type of these caps has no effect on tone, it is almost certain that this is what is causing the silence problem.

Chris.

Edited by - Scarymonsta on 01/15/2010 23:08:46
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member

Canada
4854 Posts

Posted - 01/15/2010 :  23:17:21  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Scarymonsta

I would leave C006 and C007 as the original value of 47nF (0.047). Changing the value or type of these caps has no effect on tone, it is almost certain that this is what is causing the silence problem.

Chris.

What Scarymonsta said.

Why on earth would the mod call for a change to those caps?

Edited by - Laurie on 01/15/2010 23:18:46
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JCDenton6
Bronze Member

USA
101 Posts

Posted - 01/16/2010 :  19:40:57  Show Profile  Visit JCDenton6's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Is anyone familiar with Griffin Effects? I received their modded MT-2 called the double distortion today, won an auction on ebay.

It's loaded with a 2-way switch, one position gives it a tube like tone and the other position gives it a louder, more aggressive distortion.


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Foulacy
Bronze Member

USA
65 Posts

Posted - 01/17/2010 :  01:06:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JCDenton6

Is anyone familiar with Griffin Effects? I received their modded MT-2 called the double distortion today, won an auction on ebay.

It's loaded with a 2-way switch, one position gives it a tube like tone and the other position gives it a louder, more aggressive distortion.






yes, i watched a youtube video of a griffin effects metal zone mod called the death metal mod. it sounds really good. in the two way switch for your mod, the louder of the two positions likely involves an LED or two.

Edited by - Foulacy on 01/17/2010 01:07:51
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JCDenton6
Bronze Member

USA
101 Posts

Posted - 01/17/2010 :  03:42:43  Show Profile  Visit JCDenton6's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Sounds good, that's what I speculated. I'm going to dissect it pretty soon, just to see what components they used.
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Foulacy
Bronze Member

USA
65 Posts

Posted - 01/17/2010 :  08:36:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
so I put C7 back to .047uf and the silence during switching problem is gone... I also swapped C20 and C8 to .22uf, C39 to 1uf and C36 to .01uf. not sure if I like this whole combo of mods or not. makes the pedal way more "average." and I think I liked the EQ better with the stock capacitor at C36. does C36 have any effect on tone or just on the EQ range?

edit: just wanted to state that the above mods are all from the keeley mod, not from the allums.

one thing is for sure though, I'm staying away from allums mods. he changes the value of C25 after removing C24, which I read on here does absolutely nothing, and he changes values in the switching circuit, which causes nothing but problems... absolutely pointless! i can't imagine he has any technical knowledge at all and still includes these mods in his kit.

Edited by - Foulacy on 01/18/2010 23:56:41
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JCDenton6
Bronze Member

USA
101 Posts

Posted - 01/18/2010 :  00:47:02  Show Profile  Visit JCDenton6's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the heads up on the M.A mod. I was actually looking into that one next... I think griffins mod is it's own beast with a 2-way switch. Can't wait until my new soldering iron gets here along with my sockets so I could find out, old one died out after I finished the diezner mod.

EDIT: Oh you were talking about the k**l*y mod, oh ok!

Edited by - JCDenton6 on 01/24/2010 20:23:29
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JCDenton6
Bronze Member

USA
101 Posts

Posted - 01/18/2010 :  17:04:02  Show Profile  Visit JCDenton6's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I almost forgot, did anyone notice some crackling/popping when having the EQ set a certain way with the diezner modded MT-2? I'm having that problem now, but everything was soldered pretty solid
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Scarymonsta
Bronze Member

United Kingdom
90 Posts

Posted - 01/18/2010 :  20:01:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am not familiar with the diezner mod, but a careful visual inspection of all PCB and connecting wires should be the first thing to try - check for good/bad solder joints, solder whiskers (fine strands of solder joining tracks that shouldn't be joined), cable fraying or breakages / damage. Good lighting and some magnification is really useful too.

Double check the correct components were put in the correct place listed in the mod - it's really easy to make a mistake even with years of experience.

Also ensure a good power supply or new battery.

Carefully check all these things first.

Chris.
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JCDenton6
Bronze Member

USA
101 Posts

Posted - 01/18/2010 :  20:15:18  Show Profile  Visit JCDenton6's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Gotcha, thanks for your input! Much appreciated good sir! I'll scope that out when I get home from work later.

I might just redo everything and use sockets just in case something did go/goes wrong, so I could switch out components quicker (should've done that first, but I was eager to try this mod before the sockets shipped)

Have a good one!

Joe.

EDIT: Fixed It was a over-soldered 1uf in c42.




Edited by - JCDenton6 on 01/21/2010 19:45:35
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JCDenton6
Bronze Member

USA
101 Posts

Posted - 01/21/2010 :  23:03:11  Show Profile  Visit JCDenton6's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Here are some photos of Griffins MT-2 Double Distortion mod:


http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TsDZpxJ
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TsDZs1S
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TsDZx19
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TsDZC0r
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TsDZQZi
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TsDZ_XS

Couldn't get the pics to upload like I wanted them to. I'll get it down soon.

Edited by - JCDenton6 on 01/25/2010 01:04:56
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Foulacy
Bronze Member

USA
65 Posts

Posted - 01/24/2010 :  00:36:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JCDenton6

Here are some photos of Griffins MT-2 Double Distortion mod:

http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TsDZn2A
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TsDZpxJ
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TsDZs1S
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TsDZx19
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TsDZC0r
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TsDZQZi
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TsDZ_XS

Couldn't get the pics to upload like I wanted them to. I'll get it down soon.



that looks VERY similar to the allums mod, I mean almost identical. he uses the exact same parts as allums too. same tantalums, same yellow box capacitors, same brown capacitors, same germanium diodes and LEDs on the switch. he even replaced c6, and c7 in the switching circuit. suspicious mod...

have a look at the parts allums includes http://monteallums.com/pedal_mods.html#bossmt2Plus

Edited by - Foulacy on 01/24/2010 00:49:04
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cctsim
Silver Member

United Kingdom
418 Posts

Posted - 01/24/2010 :  03:05:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The "killer" tone is achieved by changing C16. It makes the switch happy.

What a rip off !
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JCDenton6
Bronze Member

USA
101 Posts

Posted - 01/24/2010 :  04:01:40  Show Profile  Visit JCDenton6's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Foulacy

quote:
Originally posted by JCDenton6

Here are some photos of Griffins MT-2 Double Distortion mod:

http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TsDZn2A
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TsDZpxJ
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TsDZs1S
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TsDZx19
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TsDZC0r
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TsDZQZi
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TsDZ_XS

Couldn't get the pics to upload like I wanted them to. I'll get it down soon.



that looks VERY similar to the allums mod, I mean almost identical. he uses the exact same parts as allums too. same tantalums, same yellow box capacitors, same brown capacitors, same germanium diodes and LEDs on the switch. he even replaced c6, and c7 in the switching circuit. suspicious mod...

have a look at the parts allums includes http://monteallums.com/pedal_mods.html#bossmt2Plus



You are right, the only difference is in the switch: It's only a 2-way, no "stock" tone position.

Edited by - JCDenton6 on 01/24/2010 04:25:16
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