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archimedes
Silver Member

United Kingdom
191 Posts

Posted - 03/16/2010 :  12:45:12  Show Profile  Visit archimedes's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Seeing as how DM2s and DM3s go for top dollar has anyone got any recommendations for a compact sized delay at a reasonable price, how do you like the ones that you own?

Thanks

David

MullyFX
Gold Member

Germany
753 Posts

Posted - 03/16/2010 :  13:02:06  Show Profile  Visit MullyFX's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I've got an Ibanez AD99 which sounds very much like the DM-2 but is a bit bigger (it has an additional dry output though)

I'm selling it since I only use the VOX Time Machine nowadays....

I also owned a DM-2 but sold it since someone was willing to give me €200 which I thought was nice.

I also tried the MXR Carbon Copy.... but I hated it... Way Huge have released an analog delay as well but since the way huge guy designed the Carbon Copy I'm not sure if it's any good....

Edited by - MullyFX on 03/16/2010 13:04:22
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member

Canada
4854 Posts

Posted - 03/16/2010 :  13:33:23  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I have the following (analogue and digital):

DM-2: cool, but didn't stay on the board
DM-3: also cool, but also didn't stay on the board
DD-2/3: not analogue, but my delay-of-choice
DD-3 (digital): "OK" but prefer the long-chip
DD-5: good but not as good as the DD-7
DD-6: good but not as good as the DD-7
DD-7: good, but not as good as the DD-20
DD-20: my second delay-of-choice
Carbon Copy: bland. Didn't last on the board.
Ibanez DL5: great for slap-back
DOD DFX9: nice. Contender for a position on the board.
Dano BLT: nice slap echo
Behringer DD100: good workhorse, but bland
Marshall EH-1: good workhorse, but bland
Pearl AD-08: nice but too dark for daily use

On my board - a DD-2 for general delay use, and a DD-20 for serious stuff.

Edited by - Laurie on 03/16/2010 13:34:49
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Brutalitarian Supremacy
Silver Member

USA
270 Posts

Posted - 03/16/2010 :  13:59:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MullyFX

I've got an Ibanez AD99 which sounds very much like the DM-2 but is a bit bigger (it has an additional dry output though)

I'm selling it since I only use the VOX Time Machine nowadays....

I also owned a DM-2 but sold it since someone was willing to give me €200 which I thought was nice.

I also tried the MXR Carbon Copy.... but I hated it... Way Huge have released an analog delay as well but since the way huge guy designed the Carbon Copy I'm not sure if it's any good....

...I just sold my CC because it had too much clock noise for my taste...not a very good kit in my opinion...the DM-2 on the other hand is just about the best damn analog delay ever made...something about the decays just sound "right" to my ears...I used to have an original Aquapuss...and it was another really nice delay unit, I was gonna buy one as soon as they first come out but other gas symptoms started showing and the wallets crying for mercy th the moment.
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Pedal Dan
Silver Member

USA
419 Posts

Posted - 03/16/2010 :  14:33:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You can't go wrong with the reissue AD9 from Ibanez, $139 new. For a little more,(around $150 you can get the original Maxon '81 to '84). I use the Maxon made Ibanez AD-80 which runs on 18 volts(a little over 15 in circuit), it really has great organic repeats and can oscilate like crazy. It's more costly though, around $200.

Edited by - Pedal Dan on 03/16/2010 14:38:54
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member

Ireland
3543 Posts

Posted - 03/16/2010 :  15:05:32  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I find the analogue simulations in my Line 6 pod xt pro to be very good..i mostly use DD-3's for delay but i also use a rack live for some special effects and i have a analogue delay slapback simulation set up on one patch that sounds great for rockabilly/50's rock n roll and the sims of old tape echo units sound good as well even with the modulation wobble to the sound ..dunno if the DL-4 delay pedal does all the same sims but if it did it would be worth looking at plus it would give you access to four different delay sounds........
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nathanscribe
Silver Member

United Kingdom
376 Posts

Posted - 03/16/2010 :  15:33:04  Show Profile  Visit nathanscribe's Homepage  Reply with Quote
EHX Memory Boy: great for the slightly madder side of things. It can do plain old repeats, but there's a lot of fun to be had with the modulation. I suppose the Memory Toy might do for simpler stuff. I don't know how the sound compares to the genuine Memory Man, it's not as dark/warm as I expected, but it's still recognisably analogue.

Behringer VM-1: a Memory Man copy. Better than expected, but the knobs were typical Behringer and the LED could blind an airborne pilot from the ground. The sound was pleasant but hot signals would distort it too easily I found, so I sold it. The Memory Boy replaced it.

I've also got a JHS Mini-Echotec which is an old 80s BBD thing - sounds great but doesn't go wild. There are a lot of similar branded things about, like Melos etc.

I have plenty of digital delays that can sound warm - I love my Digitech RDS1900 for that, and the Boss RDD-20 microrack has a good, lower-fi sound and useful modulation. The RE-20 (COSM tape echo) is good but I know there are plenty who don't like the tone, particularly of the reverb on it. I have a DD-5 and PS-2 as well - the DD-3 was far to bland for me, but the DD-5 has enough extra to make it interesting. The PS-2's delay in itself is a tad brittle I think, but I really like the pitch-shifting mode for Dr Who alien effects. Final mention goes to the Biyang AD-7, which uses a PT2399 chip so isn't as analogue as they like to label it, but had a great sound that's just rough enough and just clean enough, if you see what I mean, and can happily self-oscillate when cranked. I use a CS-3 after mine to limit those peaks.
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Dirk
Platinum Member

Netherlands
1309 Posts

Posted - 03/16/2010 :  16:55:43  Show Profile  Visit Dirk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I have an old Arion SAD-1 analog delay.
Those can be found cheap on Ebay, and sound great.
They're made of plastic but piss all over the Behringers.
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pinkerton
Copper Member

USA
37 Posts

Posted - 03/17/2010 :  10:04:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My favorites:

DD-20: best ever...most bang for your buck

Analogman AR20DL: it's like DM-2 + DM-3 in one.

Guyatone tube echo: it can sound either digital or analog, depending on how you adjust the settings...very versatile pedal.

Ibanez EM5: nice hazy delays

T-rex Relix: cool pedal if you're into delay + modulation combo.

Maxon AD999: much better than any Ibanez AD-series, but they're expen$ive!

Eventide Timefactor -- it will cost you arm & leg, but it takes delay to whole new level!

That being said, DD-20 is the only delay that survived on my board.

Edited by - pinkerton on 03/17/2010 10:08:57
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natthu
Gold Member

Australia
756 Posts

Posted - 03/17/2010 :  12:43:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

The EHX Memory Boy is pretty cool. It's reasonably priced as well.

Some Digital delays do a good job of emulating analogue... but I guess a lot of people prefer proper analogue for various reasons.
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member

USA
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Posted - 03/17/2010 :  15:44:44  Show Profile  Send zerksies an AOL message  Click to see zerksies's MSN Messenger address  Send zerksies a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I am going for my dm-2 on saturday
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DasBeef
Gold Member

United Kingdom
704 Posts

Posted - 03/17/2010 :  15:54:43  Show Profile  Visit DasBeef's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Laurie

I have the following (analogue and digital):

DM-2: cool, but didn't stay on the board
DM-3: also cool, but also didn't stay on the board
DD-2/3: not analogue, but my delay-of-choice
DD-3 (digital): "OK" but prefer the long-chip

DD-5: good but not as good as the DD-7
DD-6: good but not as good as the DD-7
DD-7: good, but not as good as the DD-20
DD-20: my second delay-of-choice
Carbon Copy: bland. Didn't last on the board.
Ibanez DL5: great for slap-back
DOD DFX9: nice. Contender for a position on the board.
Dano BLT: nice slap echo
Behringer DD100: good workhorse, but bland
Marshall EH-1: good workhorse, but bland
Pearl AD-08: nice but too dark for daily use

On my board - a DD-2 for general delay use, and a DD-20 for serious stuff.




Total noob question for such an old forum member, but why DD-2/3 and DD-3? Is there DD-2 and two versions of DD-3? I'm confuse?

zerksies - You're going to love it!
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member

Canada
4854 Posts

Posted - 03/17/2010 :  16:08:17  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
There are three versions of the DD-3:
"long chip" - DD-2, early DD-3
"square chip" - second version of DD-3
"digital" - current version
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DasBeef
Gold Member

United Kingdom
704 Posts

Posted - 03/17/2010 :  16:24:40  Show Profile  Visit DasBeef's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Laurie

There are three versions of the DD-3:
"long chip" - DD-2, early DD-3
"square chip" - second version of DD-3
"digital" - current version



Ah it's a learning curve. Bullet points to take from that....

1 - Remember bossarea isn't just a forum. The front page has loads of information.
2 - Reading the front page can result in not asking noob questions when you've been here for ages.

So the DD-2/3 had the same treatment as the DSD-2/3. I'm still kicking myself for seeing a DSD-2 in CashConverters for £50 and not buying it. Bullet points to take from that...

1 - Don't think, just buy. It's a boss pedal, and therefore obviously ace.

Lessons learned!
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member

Ireland
3543 Posts

Posted - 03/17/2010 :  20:27:13  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I have the 2nd and 3rd versions of the DD-3 on my board...the 2nd version is defo more 'analogue' sounding than the newer one on the decay on the repeats and is my 'go to' delay for 90% of the time.. but the newer version is nice as well and has it's uses..i normally use the older one for short repeats and the newer one for longer ones...probably should of got the DD-20 or the RE-20 when they came out but i'm so used to the DD-3 now plus it has survived falling PA cabs,drunks falling and trodding all over it plus countless pints of beer and other liquids and still works perfect.......
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archimedes
Silver Member

United Kingdom
191 Posts

Posted - 03/17/2010 :  23:36:33  Show Profile  Visit archimedes's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks for all this information, I have a DD-3 which is doing a decent job but is a little cold and am beginning to wonder if an analogue box would be an improvement. The EHX range looks pretty amazing for the prices here in the UK but I haven't heard any of it myself. Interesting that people don't seem to like the MXR, I guess it's really just Dunlop trading on the brand reputation.

Or maybe I should just experiment a bit more with the DD-3 hi cut mod? Currently a .022Uf across the mix control I think.

Thanks

David

Edited by - archimedes on 03/17/2010 23:48:36
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