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verivorax
Platinum Member
Canada
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 Posted - 11/07/2008 : 18:50:42
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I'm wondering what everyone's opinion is on the replacement of O-rings. Would a collector rather see a destroyed/melted O-ring on a vintage pedal, or a shiny new one after a good cleaning? Even if the rest of pedal is player- or Racer-style? What about replacing one that was missing when you got the pedal?
Note the missing, destroyed, or melted (middle-right) o-rings..
On the same subject..
so many of the older pedals I see have this melted rubber drawn into the threads of the screw (silver or black).  Is there an easy way to clean this off the threads, the hole in the treadle, as well as the region around the melted o-ring? Lighter fluid, Q-tip and elbow grease?
Further.. what about cleaning evidence of corrosion from inside the battery compartment? |
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pedals 4 pv
Platinum Member
Canada
1351 Posts |
Posted - 11/07/2008 : 21:56:01
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For the rubber grommets I use 5/16" grommets available at any auto parts store. To remove corrosion in the battery compartment use electrical contact cleaner. I just use the cheap stuff from Canadian Tire. |
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verivorax
Platinum Member
Canada
1185 Posts |
Posted - 11/07/2008 : 23:25:12
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yes.. there are dozens of threads about these o-rings.. I'm getting a whack of them right from Roland, that's not the issue.
The issue is whether collectors care about having a shiny new ring, or if they would rather see the original, no matter how nasty.
And if a ring is replaced, should it be declared at the time of a sale or trade? |
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The_Doc
Gold Member
United Kingdom
509 Posts |
Posted - 11/07/2008 : 23:30:17
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Nice stack of pedals verivorax. 
As a collector (as well as a player), I certainly prefer to see a functioning O-ring - simply because it's a working component of the pedal. I've always replaced mine when they've melted (or have split), with brand new ones - they can smell pretty bad sometimes too when they've really turned to slime
Be careful with the paint finishes on the pedals though - I don't know if this is true for all pedals but I tried to clean up a PH-1 with some surgical alcohol and I ended up thinning the green paint - not a big problem because I tested it on the inside of the pedal first but it could have ruined it as I like mine to look as minty as possible.
Cleaning up the O-ring area - a clean rag and plenty of energy is the best way in my book.
PS: I wouldn't be bothered if the relacement of the O-ring wasn't declared at the point of sale - I'd buy it anyway. |
Edited by - The_Doc on 11/07/2008 23:33:03 |
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member
Canada
4854 Posts |
Posted - 11/07/2008 : 23:30:30
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| I replace mine and keep the old ones in a little zip-lock baggie. i also store the components i remove for the PSA mod on older pedals in the same bag. And if I have to do a major repair like replace the switch or a pot, I put the dead one of those in the bag also. So all the original stuff for the pedal is still there in case anyone ever wants it... |
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DarrinPA
Silver Member
USA
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Posted - 11/08/2008 : 00:30:16
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| The ring came off my DD-5 and it doesn't matter, I never replaced it and don't plan on it. I'd buy a pedal no matter what the ring was like, or possibly missing. I suppose that if people are buying a Silver Screw version they may want all the original parts though. |
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member
USA
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Posted - 11/08/2008 : 01:10:43
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| if you want i would put a new one in but keep the old one some people are pickey about stuff like that |
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bossarea
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/08/2008 : 13:42:11
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I prefer to see a nice new grommet too. I got a few with old melted goo but I'm going to replace them with new ones.
Don't know what's the best way to clean up the old stuff. I've replaced the grommet on my SP-1 and it was a lot of work removing the old melted one. I didn't use anything like paint thinner because I was afraid it would affect the finish. I used some kitchen or bathroom cleaner and it didn't really work at all. |
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nathanscribe
Silver Member
United Kingdom
376 Posts |
Posted - 11/08/2008 : 15:56:04
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Originally posted by bossarea
I've replaced the grommet on my SP-1
Being in the UK, where did you get the part? Was it an official one? |
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member
Canada
4854 Posts |
Posted - 11/08/2008 : 16:44:08
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Originally posted by bossarea
I prefer to see a nice new grommet too. I got a few with old melted goo but I'm going to replace them with new ones.
Don't know what's the best way to clean up the old stuff. I've replaced the grommet on my SP-1 and it was a lot of work removing the old melted one. I didn't use anything like paint thinner because I was afraid it would affect the finish. I used some kitchen or bathroom cleaner and it didn't really work at all.
Standard paint thinner (the type here in Canada anyway) is completely harmless to the finish. I've used it to clean the worst gunk off nearly every type of pedal finish and never put a mark on the pedals. |
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bossarea
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
3652 Posts |
Posted - 11/08/2008 : 19:09:24
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Originally posted by nathanscribe
Being in the UK, where did you get the part? Was it an official one?
Yes, I got it directly from Roland. It's a long time ago and since then I've probably bought 5 pedals that need a replacement. Can't believe I only bought one. |
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DeFrag
Moderator
USA
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Posted - 11/08/2008 : 23:48:31
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| I need one but can't imagine paying like $.50/piece + $13.00 shipping from Roland. |
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verivorax
Platinum Member
Canada
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Posted - 11/09/2008 : 01:02:06
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You should get your friendly neighbourhood Roland tech to order some with the next parts order.. They might be willing to eat the shipping.
Thanks for the replies, and the ideas about how to clean all my dirty boxes. I like the idea of bagging the old ring when it gets replaced, but in some cases it'll just be a lump of molten rubber - and if shipped, will probably be mistaken for hashish.
So.. if you saw an NOS or mint 80s pedal, and the rubber was perfect, would you assume original or replacement? Are there certain geographic regions which are more or less conducive to "Melted Ring Syndrome" (MRS)? |
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Melted O-rings and their replacements
