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rhcp_1005
Silver Member
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 11/16/2009 : 17:00:27
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| Just looking at the list, why is Josh Homme on there? |
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Dirk
Platinum Member
Netherlands
1309 Posts |
Posted - 11/16/2009 : 17:05:15
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I still would like Slash to be added to the list.
He kind of made the Les Paul guitar popular again amongst rock players in the 80's, plus (especially) Guns N Roses had a major impact on a lot of musicians.
He played some really cool lines back then, listen to Estranged, November Rain, Sweet child, Micheal Jacksons Give in to me, etc.
It's all out there. |
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nosi0
Gold Member
Netherlands
511 Posts |
Posted - 11/16/2009 : 17:25:12
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| I can't believe you guys didn't think of Satriani. besides that, Alexi Laiho and Michael Amott and Christopher Amott |
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member
USA
3406 Posts |
Posted - 11/16/2009 : 17:49:32
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Originally posted by nosi0
I can't believe you guys didn't think of Satriani. besides that, Alexi Laiho and Michael Amott and Christopher Amott
i WAS WONDER WHEN SOMEONE WOULD SAY SLASH HE WAS NOT EVEN ON THE ROLLING STONE LIST,Satriani is added to the list and the other 3 i have never heard of. i am gonna have to do research on the other 3 |
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chrissydamage
Silver Member
United Kingdom
180 Posts |
Posted - 11/16/2009 : 19:54:16
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That Rolling Stone list is just the opinion of a very biased music journalist and not a musician
How can you have a top 100 guitar player list and ignore all the '80s guitar heros?
There are just too many exclusions to mention-
All of the 'shredders' are missing without exception- anyone who has ever released a record on the Shrapnel label is probably worthy of featuring rather highly on that list and the whole genre is just totally ignored-
Then again lots of other genres are totally ignored by that list too which focuses tunnel-vision style on 50s to 70s blues and pop/rock and nothing from recent times.......
How about (in addition to those I mentioned earlier)
Paco de Lucia
Michael Angelo Batio
Rhandy Rhoads
Zakk Wylde
Johnny Marr
John Squire
Michael Schenker
Warren Demartini
Dweezil Zappa
Rusty Cooley
Chris Broderick (new Megadeth guitarist)
Satch and Vai should really feature on any top 100 guitar player list by default as should Slash, Jimi, Clapton, SRV, Robert Johnson..... It should really go without saying really and its hardly like anyone could attempt to argue any of them are not worthy
How the hell does Joan Jett make the Rolling Stone list though? wtf?
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member
USA
3406 Posts |
Posted - 11/16/2009 : 20:34:13
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Originally posted by chrissydamage
Chris Broderick (new Megadeth guitarist)
Your kidding right. a new guitarist one that has not been around long enough to make an impact on music. |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
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Posted - 11/16/2009 : 20:56:50
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Technical speedfreaks shouldn't mean inclusion just because of their dexterity...look at what someone like Hendrix or Richard Thompson have actually contributed to music with songs and Hendrix with not only his groundbreaking,revolutionary guitar playing but his pioneering work in the studio and making people in the music business take the electric guitar seriously as an instrument..Thompson in his own field brought the electric guitar into english folk music and re-invented it into his own unique style...If you really want to get down to it,Deep Purple/Blackmore invented the Neo-classicial style,even Malmsteen has admitted as much in interviews...including every new,wannabe shredder on the list is as pointless as including every blues player..copying what everyone else has done and playing it faster isn't the point... |
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ovrdrv123
Bronze Member
USA
143 Posts |
Posted - 11/16/2009 : 20:58:32
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Originally posted by chrissydamage
How the hell does Joan Jett make the Rolling Stone list though? wtf?
To Rolling Stones, it's always been a beauty contest. We even see this in the 70's issues of the famed magazine. Never fully trust a magazine that's name has sold it's soul out  |
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chrissydamage
Silver Member
United Kingdom
180 Posts |
Posted - 11/17/2009 : 01:30:18
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Originally posted by zerksies
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Originally posted by chrissydamage
Chris Broderick (new Megadeth guitarist)
Your kidding right. a new guitarist one that has not been around long enough to make an impact on music.
No way dude......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkpZ645ztl0
Got to be worthy of being mentioned somewhere in that list surely.... |
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jack
Platinum Member
USA
1418 Posts |
Posted - 11/17/2009 : 04:21:36
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Esteban. Nuff said...
Just kidding, carry on... |
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ovrdrv123
Bronze Member
USA
143 Posts |
Posted - 11/17/2009 : 04:41:46
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Originally posted by FRANZONI
Technical speedfreaks shouldn't mean inclusion just because of their dexterity...look at what someone like Hendrix or Richard Thompson have actually contributed to music with songs and Hendrix with not only his groundbreaking,revolutionary guitar playing but his pioneering work in the studio and making people in the music business take the electric guitar seriously as an instrument..Thompson in his own field brought the electric guitar into english folk music and re-invented it into his own unique style...If you really want to get down to it,Deep Purple/Blackmore invented the Neo-classicial style,even Malmsteen has admitted as much in interviews...including every new,wannabe shredder on the list is as pointless as including every blues player..copying what everyone else has done and playing it faster isn't the point...
that's what i'm sayin! Blackmore did pretty much invent it. i've tried telling people that but sometimes they don't believe me.
k, back to the Dimebag:
if Dimebag were still alive today, he would still blow all other metal players away just because he can do what EVERYONE else in metal does and more. that being said no one has surpassed him still this day in metal, even herman li says Dimebag was more technical and accurately fluid playing live than Dragonforce is on their CD... if that's not saying something i don't know what is folks. i'm not his number one fan or anything, just sayin. The fourth Dimebag Tribute CD is coming out soon!!  |
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chrissydamage
Silver Member
United Kingdom
180 Posts |
Posted - 11/17/2009 : 12:28:50
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I'm sure I read an interview with Dimebag where he said he learned a lot of of his technique (especially legato) by learning the guitar parts for Michael Angelo's 'Speed Kills' note for note......
Michael Angelo also taught RATMs Tom Morello.......
I'm not saying every 'technical speedfreak' should be included just purely of how fast they play, but the genre should be represented somehow because there are some amazing guitarists, some of which are far more influential than you think........
Marty Friedman is so popular in Japan he has his own TV show for example!
In fact many of the people I included were not even shredders, Johhny Marr from the Smiths, John Squire from the Stone Roses, Paco de Lucia who is a Flamenco(?) guitarist- all of them great players with very different styles.....
Neoclassical is hardly original anyway regardless of who pioneered it- Its often classical music themes reworked and played on a guitar relying heavily on the harmonic minor/diminished and diabolos scales. Blackmore may have influenced Malmsteen but without the work Paganini did centuries earlier the whole genre almost certainly wouldn't exist.......
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0110402712
Copper Member
Australia
9 Posts |
Posted - 11/17/2009 : 13:00:04
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Hi All
got a couple for ya to think about
Tommy Emmanuel
Jerry Reed |
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silvertone6120
Gold Member
USA
609 Posts |
Posted - 11/17/2009 : 15:05:09
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Quote: "got a couple for ya to think about
Tommy Emmanuel
Jerry Reed"
And while we're at it let's throw in guys like Tony Rice and Norman Blake...people who don't need a wall of amps and a floorboard full of pedals to make a guitar talk. Not necessarily about speed either, although they've all proven they can move it pretty good...it's more about playing the song...that, to me, is what being a good guitarist is all about.
I mean...what is this kinda thing all about anyway? To me it's boiled down to its most basic. Put an acoustic guitar in the hands of anyone mentioned in this thread or in Rolling Stone's stupid-ass list. No amps, no pedals, just a guitar, and tell 'em to go to work. That IMO is when you'll separate the men from the boys. |
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jack
Platinum Member
USA
1418 Posts |
Posted - 11/17/2009 : 15:49:31
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Lets face it, while there are some players everyone can agree on, there are others that may not have been influential or even listened to by anyone else. For example, I would include Wayne Kramer and Sonic Smith on my 100 list, but I know that many people would think that was ridiculous to include the MC5. Then we'd just get into the possibly never ending battle of, here's why I think they should and why you think they shouldn't. There is no wrong or no right with these type of lists, so someone will find something at fault either with who is on it, or where they are on it.  |
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