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zentropa
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 Posted - 04/17/2008 : 16:21:41
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LDR:
the soundtanks held up quite well given their construction. the two danger areas are the battery cover (which nearly always gets broken over time) and the pots (which sometimes get broken over time).
oddly enough the rest of it holds up pretty well (at least much better than their tonelok series).
my experiences with the asymmetrical/symmetrical clipping switches is that each have their place for a given style of play and type of amp. i prefer asymmetrical for rhythm work (especially with open chords), moderate/low volume playing, for use with cleaner amps, and dirty amps with a fairly "tight" gain. i prefer symmetrical clipping for lead work and dirty amps with a fairly loose, noisy gain (e.g. sovtek mig, single channel jcm800's, etc.). best comparison i can make is if asymmetrical is a flashlight, symmetrical is a laser pointer.
i also prefer the jrc4558dd to the jrc4558d in most situations but openly admit this is mostly due to the fact that i'm stuck playing at very low volumes the majority of the time.
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zestystrat
Silver Member
USA
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Posted - 04/17/2008 : 17:44:35
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Originally posted by Dr. Bob
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Originally posted by zestystrat
Analog Man has a push pull mod for the SD-1 to switch between symmetrical and asymetrical. I have it and love it.
Hi zestystrat
Which of the 2 modes do you prefer?
Regards Dr. Bob
Funny I had to look it up cuz I do like one over the other.
It's the pull mode which is Boss/asymmetrical. If I step on it and it's in push mode, it sounds flat and I have to work harder to sound better. I cal always tell when it's in the Ibanez/symmetrical clipping mode. |
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leonard d rock
Silver Member
Philippines
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Posted - 04/18/2008 : 05:21:40
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hi guys. these little pedals have morphed into great pedals despite their cheap/humble intentions( as beginner or budget models). they give the sound that we look for in the more expensive sd1 or ts9. which refocus us to the fact that its the sound that we're looking for, not the brand or the price. now as dr. bob pointed out, this pedals would be great if rehoused in a metal case, more players would put them on their pedal boards and not feel conscious from the snooty stares of the boutique- or-price-conscious set. as for me, i just added another diode to the ts-5 to make it asymmetrical and am enjoying every minute playing it. i'll probably add a switch to switch between the 2 modes later.i think the choice between symmetrical or asymmetrical is actually personal, there's no "best" here.  |
Edited by - leonard d rock on 04/18/2008 05:24:46 |
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zentropa
Gold Member
USA
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Posted - 04/18/2008 : 07:08:58
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i agree those soundtanks had some nice pedals in them. i agree the downside was their casing. i remember back when i started buying pedals in '94 trying some out but going for DOD pedals since they were similarly priced and had metal casings. too many broken battery covers on the soundtanks.
i recently stumbled across a couple of them and had em up for sale in the non-boss area but @$20 each still had no takers so i traded em in locally for a CS-3. the odd thing w/ the TS-5 nowadays, is that you can get a new SD-1 for less than a used TS-5.
oddly enough, i've seen so many dead/malfunctioning/broken tone-lok pedals that the soundtanks seem durable in comparison.
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leonard d rock
Silver Member
Philippines
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Posted - 04/18/2008 : 08:36:03
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hi zentropa, well, i got my ts-5 used and its still good, except for a broken wire in the battery clip, which isn't used anyway. i don't know about the prices of used and used pedals because of the high dollar-peso exchange rate here: $1=P40. and the last time i looked on an ebay seller, a boss pedal would cost less compared to the dealer's price, but the shipping cost (usually from the US) is almost the same as the pedal itself. i was also looking at the local e-bay but there were no good pedals for sale. its the china/taiwan made clones like boston/GLX/Betaivin, daphon, denio and behringer that are affordable. I was surprised by what you said about the tonelok pedals. ANALOGMAn agrees with you on his site:"the ts-7 is a lot cheaper than a TS9 but I don't think they will hold up as well to severe use. All the boards, onnectors, and cables inside add a lot of complexity and there are many things to break...tiny micro switches seem to be failing ." We'll if we just take care or our pedals (boss and all) i think they'll last longer.
LDR
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could the little pedal be on the way to cult/collector status?
btw, the aldi's pedal face  has round things embossed while the ts5' holes are recessed. |
Edited by - leonard d rock on 04/18/2008 13:57:25 |
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zentropa
Gold Member
USA
837 Posts |
Posted - 04/18/2008 : 16:45:22
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ah, i'm not sure what the exchange rate is (in terms of buying power, avg wages, etc.) but i do know the dollar is incredibly weak right now on the exchange market. most countries are finding a 30-40% increase in buying power when buying stuff from the US. unfortunately, gas prices have caused a 30-40% increase in shipping rates as well.
as for the tone-loks, my theory is based upon the # of ones i see at music store priced super cheap and marked "as is" "broken knob" "dead switch", etc. seems like about 1 in 4 i find has some major function issue.
i'm not sure if the soundtanks will become collectable as i don't know too many people that depend upon them for their sound. TS-5's average around $50 when i find em here, but most of the other pedals (with the exception of the delay) are usually under $35. i think once the soundtanks hit the "vintage" mark (25 years old) they will probably be up in value but so will everything else that meets that criterion. its a shame that these models were forgotten so quickly. the powerlead sounds to me like a smoother tubescreamer kicked up 2 stages in gain and those are like $25 here. the 9 and 10 series ibanez pedals have been on the climb for a while now, but it's too early to tell on the 5's.
as for the TS5 itself... i believe there's enough tubescreamer versions out there to where these won't ever be worth a ton but at the same time, people want tubescreamers enough to always be looking for em.
sadly, not enough people know about which are which, which have what chip in them, etc. there's been a maxon od9 on craigslist here for like a week @$70 with no takers but there's been a bunch of reissue TS9 and TS9dx's that have come and gone in that span for the same price.
however, swapping the IC to a 4558 in the TS5 will most likely boost its value at least in the short run. |
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leonard d rock
Silver Member
Philippines
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Posted - 04/24/2008 : 12:12:26
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one last/funny/useful thing about the daphon e10/ts5. i was playing with my ts and just for kicks (as always) plugged in an chinese-made acoustic (sold also as squier or oscar schmidt acoustic packs or the washburn d10), turned off the gain knob, and it it did a good job as a preamp/booster into the guitar amp. added chorus and delay and sounded like an expensive rig. with the stronger signal, you can tweak the tone more from the onboard preamp or the amp. the ts's tone control also is useful. took away most of the quackiness commonly complained about when you plug in an piezo-loaded acoustic into a guitar amp.
*you can also cut part of the spring (about 1/4)to make the pedal easier to turn on and off. |
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Dr. Bob
Moderator
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Posted - 04/29/2008 : 12:13:47
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Originally posted by leonard d rock
one last/funny/useful thing about the daphon e10/ts5. i was playing with my ts and just for kicks (as always) plugged in an chinese-made acoustic (sold also as squier or oscar schmidt acoustic packs or the washburn d10), turned off the gain knob, and it it did a good job as a preamp/booster into the guitar amp. added chorus and delay and sounded like an expensive rig. with the stronger signal, you can tweak the tone more from the onboard preamp or the amp. the ts's tone control also is useful. took away most of the quackiness commonly complained about when you plug in an piezo-loaded acoustic into a guitar amp.
*you can also cut part of the spring (about 1/4)to make the pedal easier to turn on and off.
Hi leonard d rock & guys
Thanks for the very useful update to your post.
I will have to take another look at my Livingston Aldi brand E10.
I have been thinking about re-housing mine, into a die-cast Hammond type box, & painting it some way sic colour, just to see what reactions I get...
Regards Dr. Bob |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
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Posted - 04/29/2008 : 17:06:02
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Originally posted by Dr. Bob
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Originally posted by leonard d rock
one last/funny/useful thing about the daphon e10/ts5. i was playing with my ts and just for kicks (as always) plugged in an chinese-made acoustic (sold also as squier or oscar schmidt acoustic packs or the washburn d10), turned off the gain knob, and it it did a good job as a preamp/booster into the guitar amp. added chorus and delay and sounded like an expensive rig. with the stronger signal, you can tweak the tone more from the onboard preamp or the amp. the ts's tone control also is useful. took away most of the quackiness commonly complained about when you plug in an piezo-loaded acoustic into a guitar amp.
*you can also cut part of the spring (about 1/4)to make the pedal easier to turn on and off.
Hi leonard d rock & guys
Thanks for the very useful update to your post.
I will have to take another look at my Livingston Aldi brand E10.
I have been thinking about re-housing mine, into a die-cast Hammond type box, & painting it some way sic colour, just to see what reactions I get...
Regards Dr. Bob
Call it...'Dr Bobs skullbuster' or some other mad name and you will have a a shedload of orders before you know it.........especially if you rehouse it and add a few colours.... . i bag the first off the line.....001..i can see you now rolling across the outback with your wagon going from town to town selling your famous invention.....the word 'pedaller' will take on a whole new meaning...... |
Edited by - FRANZONI on 04/29/2008 17:08:35 |
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