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Basstyra
Gold Member

France
523 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2006 :  18:08:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lots of Boss pedals have Fets before and after the "effect" part. I even think most of them do. At least, all the distortions units.
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stahlhart
Platinum Member

1318 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2006 :  19:06:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Most of the schematics I've seen up until now have only had one switching FET -- it could be that because I've focused a lot of my work primarily on delay units my view got skewed. I haven't really dug too deeply into the multitude of distortion units they've put out.
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Basstyra
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France
523 Posts

Posted - 08/29/2006 :  19:29:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yep, delay units often only switch on or off the delayed sound. In the case of a distortion, that's not really possible...
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stahlhart
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Posted - 08/30/2006 :  16:40:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As it turned out, the only reason that the switching was not working was that the violet and black wires were tied together -- putting the violet wire back where it belongs corrected things.

Now the way that it's working now is this: push footswitch down, LED comes on, effect is on... hold foot down, LED stays on... remove foot from footswitch, LED goes out, effect stays on... push footswitch down again, LED comes on, effect is off... hold foot down, LED stays on... remove foot from footswitch, LED goes out, effect stays off. Is this how the "momentary" LED is supposed to work?

Should also note here that the DS-1 case has a painted bottom edge -- first time I've ever gotten one like that also.
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stahlhart
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1318 Posts

Posted - 08/30/2006 :  20:01:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Should also note here that it seems as though the old style switch/spring arrangement results in a footpedal that rattles around quite a bit. The change Boss implemented gives the newer pedals a higher quality feel in comparison.
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Sunburst
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427 Posts

Posted - 08/30/2006 :  21:07:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by stahlhart

As it turned out, the only reason that the switching was not working was that the violet and black wires were tied together -- putting the violet wire back where it belongs corrected things.

Now the way that it's working now is this: push footswitch down, LED comes on, effect is on... hold foot down, LED stays on... remove foot from footswitch, LED goes out, effect stays on... push footswitch down again, LED comes on, effect is off... hold foot down, LED stays on... remove foot from footswitch, LED goes out, effect stays off. Is this how the "momentary" LED is supposed to work?

Should also note here that the DS-1 case has a painted bottom edge -- first time I've ever gotten one like that also.




Yes, that is how the momentary LED works.
Regarding the painted bottom edge, it seems much like this is a random feature and not only found on early pedals.

Edited by - Sunburst on 08/30/2006 21:09:29
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stahlhart
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Posted - 08/30/2006 :  21:32:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's weird how they just decide seemingly at random to do that.
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Sunburst
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427 Posts

Posted - 08/30/2006 :  21:54:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, perhaps the guys in the paintroom has shaky hands!
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Sunburst
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427 Posts

Posted - 08/30/2006 :  21:59:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
For example, both my DC-2 pedals from 1987 and 1988 has the painted edges. I have owned a 1985 DS-1 MIJ with painted edges while my #9700 DS-1 SS does not have it. Go figure...
This has however been covered in another topic I think.

Edited by - Sunburst on 08/30/2006 22:00:13
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kAz
Copper Member

USA
8 Posts

Posted - 08/31/2006 :  14:21:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Are the early Boss pedals supposed to have tiny ACA stickers? I'm wondering because my DS-1 doesn't have it, and neither do Stahlhart's nor Starr36's. It might just be coincident, but I would like to know if anyone owns early DS-1 or other early Boss pedals with ACA stickers.

Also, mine looks like it's spray painted, but it's a really thick paint. That's why I thought it might have been repainted by previous owner. I imagine all the early DS-1 pedals have thick paint.
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bossarea
Forum Admin

United Kingdom
3652 Posts

Posted - 08/31/2006 :  15:58:11  Show Profile  Visit bossarea's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I think you're right. I've had a look through my pedals and none of the ink stamped pedals have the ACA sticker. I haven't owned any of them from new but I suspect the sticker wasn't introduced until around 1982-1983.
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starr36
Platinum Member

Canada
1172 Posts

Posted - 08/31/2006 :  19:25:39  Show Profile  Visit starr36's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bossarea

I think you're right. I've had a look through my pedals and none of the ink stamped pedals have the ACA sticker. I haven't owned any of them from new but I suspect the sticker wasn't introduced until around 1982-1983.



I think the PSA adapter was introduced to support the DD-2 which is a power hog (and the PSM5), and, quite frankly is not at all recommended to be used with a battery.

Edited by - starr36 on 08/31/2006 19:33:04
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starr36
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Canada
1172 Posts

Posted - 08/31/2006 :  19:31:33  Show Profile  Visit starr36's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kAz

... but it's a really thick paint. That's why I thought it might have been repainted by previous owner. I imagine all the early DS-1 pedals have thick paint.



I have noticed that the early boss pedals upto and including my 1987 CS-3 have very nice thick almost "chip-proof" paint (unless of course you toss your pedals in a gym bag after a gig) ... my DC-3 has thin paint, the TR-2 I bought in 1998 shortly after the pedal was released LOOKED like it had thick paint, but, i accidentally dopped my guitar cord and it landed right on top of the TR-2 and, paint went flying -={()}=- - at that time, I remember being pissed that the finish quality was a lot worse than the japanese made pedals as it was my first MIT pedal. MY CE-2 is an exception it has THIN paint on the pedal, but really thick paint on the case (earlier thread posted pics about the yellow primer underneath).

Edited by - starr36 on 08/31/2006 19:34:49
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stahlhart
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1318 Posts

Posted - 09/02/2006 :  06:21:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Okay; here's a few shots (if they don't look good, I'll try taking them with daylight lighting instead):







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starr36
Platinum Member

Canada
1172 Posts

Posted - 09/02/2006 :  06:33:46  Show Profile  Visit starr36's Homepage  Reply with Quote
WOW! look at the PCB? looks like someone soldered the traces!!! wow!
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