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Right Foot Boss
Gold Member

USA
881 Posts

Posted - 01/20/2008 :  09:46:09  Show Profile  Visit Right Foot Boss's Homepage  Send Right Foot Boss an AOL message  Reply with Quote
...which one should I get?

I really like the Maxon GE-01 that I was prompted to buy from a dream I had. So I decided that I should invest in a tube screamer.

Is there a difference from Maxon to Ibanez or is it just the brand name?

TS-808, TS-9, TS-10, TS-7, and TS-5? Which one?

And what of the reissued TS-9 and TS-808?

FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member

Ireland
3543 Posts

Posted - 01/20/2008 :  18:00:59  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
maxon was the company who made all the original ibanez effects..as far as i know they still make them in the original factory in japan,i'm not sure where ibanez make theirs now maybe taiwan or china,but i think they have gone their seperate ways,thats why the maxon are probably dearer to buy as they are building them to the original specs,i know that the analog delay is 120 euro dearer in ireland the the ibanez verison...... all i can suggest is to use your ears if you have the chance to test the tubescreamers side by side in a music store ......
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Goran
Double Platinum Member

Sweden
2203 Posts

Posted - 01/21/2008 :  07:10:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have had TS808 RI, TS-5, TS-10 and TS-7 plus several clones.
The one that stand out the most is Visual Sounds Route 66, very, very good and includes a compressor (one of the best I�ve heard) with tons of gain. This is a versatile pedal for sure, highly recommended.
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jack
Platinum Member

USA
1418 Posts

Posted - 01/21/2008 :  08:11:21  Show Profile  Visit jack's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I would try the Maxon and a Tubescreamer side by side and see if there is any real noticeable difference, because there may not be anything majorly different about them in the way of sound.
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Dr. Bob
Moderator

Australia
6593 Posts

Posted - 01/21/2008 :  10:32:14  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi Right Foot Boss & Guys

Don't forget to listen to the Digitech Bad Monkey.

DOD used to make a pedal called Mystic Blues, it's a very nice pedal as
well, there has been one on evilbay US for a few months.

Regards Dr. Bob

Edited by - Dr. Bob on 01/21/2008 10:34:09
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Goran
Double Platinum Member

Sweden
2203 Posts

Posted - 01/21/2008 :  12:12:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Bob

Hi Right Foot Boss & Guys

Don't forget to listen to the Digitech Bad Monkey.

DOD used to make a pedal called Mystic Blues, it's a very nice pedal as
well, there has been one on evilbay US for a few months.

Regards Dr. Bob



Forgot Bad Monkey , this is a really good �Tubescreamer� and due to the very good tone controls it can do a lot more tricks than the stock TS. I use the Monkey nearly all the time, but not like a TS, I have the tone controls near max to get a more flat-boost pedal.
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Caliban
Bronze Member

United Kingdom
145 Posts

Posted - 01/21/2008 :  13:46:36  Show Profile  Click to see Caliban's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Buy a TS-5 or TS-7 from E-bay if you want to hear the Tubescreamer sound without spending too much money. They have to be used to overdrive a valve amp to get a classic blues or rock sound; the circuit was designed to provide a volume and gain hike for solos, so they cut bass for clarity (lots of those 60's and 70's amps got a little blurty if they were pushed too hard in the bass) and to enable your solo to cut through. As to the other models... you pay more for features (the TS9DX) or for authenticity (TS-808 reissue has the "right" chip, although this is the same chip as you'll find in the TS-7).

The Bad Monkey's a good little pedal, mind - and essential if the bass cut of the Tubescreamer isn't to your taste, as it has a bass control.
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leonard d rock
Silver Member

Philippines
301 Posts

Posted - 04/08/2008 :  08:14:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
[quote]Originally posted by Caliban

Buy a TS-5 or TS-7 from E-bay if you want to hear the Tubescreamer sound without spending too much money.

hello caliban,
Does the ts-5 really give an accurate sound of the tubescreamer? i opened one up and i found a ta75558 chip in it compared to what i read that real tubescreamers use jrc 4558 opamp. i like using it sometimes but worry about its small switch and plastic housing.
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zentropa
Gold Member

USA
837 Posts

Posted - 04/08/2008 :  16:44:51  Show Profile  Send zentropa an AOL message  Reply with Quote
LDR:

the reissue TS9's use the TA75558 chip in it but i've read that there's a really easy mod to bring the TS5 back to original TS9 specs. left stock, the TS5 almost the same as a TS9 reissue.

TS5's always did feel a bit fragile... hard to find em nowadays with an intact battery cover... and even harder to keep the battery cover intact if you use it a lot. most TS-10's should have JRC4558's.

i know this thread is old, but maxon made all of the TS9 resissues until ~'96? i think (when maxon started releasing the OD-808 in the 9 series case). older TS9 resissues will have a maxon PCB.

i know the earlier posts in this thread are a bit old (before i started posting here), but the maxon OD9 definitely sounds more like an original TS9 than a stock resissue TS9 does. the maxon has some upgrades such as true bypass switching and quieter resistors.

i've found maxon OD-808's and OD-9's to be very similar to the original TS-9 i had and original TS-808's i've played with the biggest difference being that the maxon ones are a bit brighter. e.g. the tone set to 12 o'clock on the TS-9 = tone set to ~9:30 on the maxon OD-9.
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jack
Platinum Member

USA
1418 Posts

Posted - 04/08/2008 :  23:42:39  Show Profile  Visit jack's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I'd recommened the BYOC Screamer kit as it is a clone of the TS-808, but comes with all the extra parts to do Keeley mods, Landgraff, and some of the other popular mods that people like to do with TS, plus its true bypass if you're into that sort of thing...
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leonard d rock
Silver Member

Philippines
301 Posts

Posted - 04/09/2008 :  03:46:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thanks guys. this thread is old but when you review it, you stumble upon something new.just for kicks, i replaced the ta75558 chip with a rc4558 cheap clone and it sounded good with more bass in it. i'm thinking of rehousing it and changing the switch but i'm still looking for a suitable case. on another note, since the ts-5 was made by daphon and sold it also as the e10od, i read somewhere that the daphon e20od is also a good cheap ts- clone in a metal case.

Edited by - leonard d rock on 04/09/2008 03:58:31
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leonard d rock
Silver Member

Philippines
301 Posts

Posted - 04/16/2008 :  11:11:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hi dr. bob, guys. i was reading your old posts about aldi and you wrote: "The OD1 Overdrive yellow pedal, has a JRC4558 with 3 diodes in an asymmetrically clipping configuration."

well, i remember opening up the ibanez ts-5 and i also noticed ( aside from the different opamps) that it had only two diodes which makes it symmetrical while the aldi had assymetrical, if i'm not mistaken. seems that when daphon made it for ibanez they made it like a tubescreamer but for other markets/brands they made it more like the boss sd-1. of course, if you put these two types of od's side by side, they almost sound the same except for the smoother drive of the ts IMO. i read somewhere that dextermods mods a daphon e20 0d with a switch to lift one of the diodes to switch between symmetrical and asymetrical. since i still can't afford a new boss od, i think i'm going to look a daphon.
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zestystrat
Silver Member

USA
283 Posts

Posted - 04/16/2008 :  17:54:20  Show Profile  Visit zestystrat's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Analog Man has a push pull mod for the SD-1 to switch between symmetrical and asymetrical. I have it and love it.
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Dr. Bob
Moderator

Australia
6593 Posts

Posted - 04/17/2008 :  11:09:46  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by zestystrat

Analog Man has a push pull mod for the SD-1 to switch between symmetrical and asymetrical. I have it and love it.



Hi zestystrat

Which of the 2 modes do you prefer?

Regards Dr. Bob
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Dr. Bob
Moderator

Australia
6593 Posts

Posted - 04/17/2008 :  11:21:17  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by leonard d rock

hi dr. bob, guys. i was reading your old posts about aldi and you wrote: "The OD1 Overdrive yellow pedal, has a JRC4558 with 3 diodes in an asymmetrically clipping configuration."

well, i remember opening up the ibanez ts-5 and i also noticed ( aside from the different opamps) that it had only two diodes which makes it symmetrical while the aldi had assymetrical, if i'm not mistaken. seems that when daphon made it for ibanez they made it like a tubescreamer but for other markets/brands they made it more like the boss sd-1. of course, if you put these two types of od's side by side, they almost sound the same except for the smoother drive of the ts IMO. i read somewhere that dextermods mods a daphon e20 0d with a switch to lift one of the diodes to switch between symmetrical and asymetrical. since i still can't afford a new boss od, i think i'm going to look a daphon.



Hi leonard d rock

Did you need-want to see some internal pics of the Aldi Yellow OD pedal?
If I remember, I did take some pics last year, when I had it open.

I can tell you, a lot of my friends rushed out & bought one,
after playing around with the one I have.

It's a straight SD-1 copy, right down to the ACA resistor in the battery & DC input part of the circuit...

It would be a good pedal to re-house, into a Hammond type diecast case.

Regards Dr. Bob
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leonard d rock
Silver Member

Philippines
301 Posts

Posted - 04/17/2008 :  13:10:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hi dr. bob, thanks for the offer of picture of the aldi, i'll just PM you if i need/want them. i really like the sound of that little ts-5 but its the plastic case that worries me. i thought of rehousing it too but as i found out and others had stated, its bigger/wider than a boss pedal. that pull push mod switch zestystrat mentioned would be great on any od pedal, make you have more options on your board without the added pedal.
/LDR

Edited by - leonard d rock on 04/17/2008 13:29:29
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