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jaymzHal
Silver Member

United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/20/2008 :  21:54:04  Show Profile  Visit jaymzHal's Homepage  Reply with Quote
So I bought a BR-600 recorder a few weeks ago, and I like it. I can record some passable tunes and stuff, although the drum machine is utterly baffling, I mean, it's not rocket science (which is a shame, seeing as I'm an astrophysics masters student) but I don't even know where to begin. Does anyone use any good resources for drum loop composing such as websites or books?

Also, while everything records fine, I find that it sounds a little too processed. Its main selling point is that you can jack right in and choose your effects and so on, but would anyone recommend getting a mic to record direct from amp? My local soundcontrol store is closing down and selling off all the remaining stock at a discount under the store name "reverb", and they have an abundance of MXL mics going for about 25%-30% rrp. Good brand?

bossarea
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United Kingdom
3652 Posts

Posted - 08/20/2008 :  22:33:48  Show Profile  Visit bossarea's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I've been drooling over the BR-600 for a while. I've got the BR-Micro but I'd really like to have the extra 4 tracks of the 600.

I suspect that the drum machine is similar in both units. It's not very advanced but you can use it to program a rhythm very quickly. You choose among a set of premade patterns and only specify at what bar the pattern changes. For the Micro I just went tthrough the sample in the manual and it became clear to me.

I have tried recording to the Micro both using the built in amps and an SM-57 in front of a real amp. In every case so far, I got a better sound using the built in amps. I'm not perfectly happy with the sound of the high gain models in the Micro but they still turned out better than the mic'ed up recording.
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NB_Terry
Copper Member

Canada
18 Posts

Posted - 11/09/2008 :  05:05:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have a BR-600 and it's great.

I don't use the preset guitar sounds, I mic up an amp or use the onboard mics.

Best $350 I've ever spent.
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Big Boss Man
Gold Member

USA
564 Posts

Posted - 11/12/2008 :  00:26:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Definitely pickup an SM-57 mic. They are cheap and always have a place in any studio for micing amps. You can also use them on vocals.
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DeFrag
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USA
3409 Posts

Posted - 11/12/2008 :  01:11:25  Show Profile  Visit DeFrag's Homepage  Click to see DeFrag's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I have a Micro BR & its only useful for recording ideas on the road.

My next recorder is the Korg MR-1000 high-def 2-track recorder. I got it because of its 2-track simplicity, no effects, no complicated menus.. just record. I wish it had a couple extra inputs but its certainly no Sound Devices ENG field recorder.. those things are quite nice, yet expensive.

The Roland R-44 4-channel field recorder is fairly capable & I considered it before settling on the Korg. The Roland CD-2e looks alright but is limited to 2 tracks. At least it has a CD burner. Though, the BR-1600CD would be the unit to have in order to capture a band with 8 pres. I can't believe its the only Boss unit with more than 2 inputs.. bah

In my band, I've used a Fostex MR8HD with 4 tracks of simultaneous recording. I liked the unit but it had a few quirks (I suppose they all do). Alesis, Korg, Tascam, & yes.. even Zoom make some nice mixer/recorder/interface units.

I'm happy enough with my Korg MR-1000. I have to use it with a mixer though to bounce down to final stereo. All I really wanted was a recorder with at least 8 tracks of simultaneous recording & no effects. Its really too bad that there isn't very many quality 8-track recorders on the market in the $500 range besides the Korg D888 which looks promising. Perhaps a good 2-track recorder with an 8-track mixer is the best option right now. In any case, Korg seems to bubble to the top. My biggest problem is that I "don't want" to afford $700 for a capable recording solution for my son.

Edited by - DeFrag on 11/12/2008 01:18:23
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PaulH
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535 Posts

Posted - 11/12/2008 :  17:52:22  Show Profile  Visit PaulH's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I recorded a whole album a few years ago using a BR1180.


Production wise, I still receive positive comments. Have a listen...
http://www.soundclick.com/player/single_player.cfm?songid=964277&q=hi&newref=1
and
http://www.soundclick.com/player/single_player.cfm?songid=1001536&q=hi&newref=1

And this track was all recorded with acoustic instruments (guitars, bouzoukis, mandolins, and recorders) captured with a Shure mic...
http://www.soundclick.com/player/single_player.cfm?songid=946722&q=hi&newref=1



Nowadays I use Sonar.

Edited by - PaulH on 11/12/2008 18:00:25
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Dr. Bob
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Australia
6593 Posts

Posted - 11/13/2008 :  11:50:28  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PaulH

I recorded a whole album a few years ago using a BR1180.


Production wise, I still receive positive comments. Have a listen...
http://www.soundclick.com/player/single_player.cfm?songid=964277&q=hi&newref=1
and
http://www.soundclick.com/player/single_player.cfm?songid=1001536&q=hi&newref=1

And this track was all recorded with acoustic instruments (guitars, bouzoukis, mandolins, and recorders) captured with a Shure mic...
http://www.soundclick.com/player/single_player.cfm?songid=946722&q=hi&newref=1



Nowadays I use Sonar.



Hi PaulH

Just a quick heads Paul.
All these links, just seem to drop me off on this main default page.
http://www.soundclick.com/default.cfm.

It might be different if you are a registered member & logged in?

I tried from two different systems, one from here in my Lab, & the other one from my Workstation at work.
Same thing happened.

Looking forward to hearing your recordings.

For reference, I'm using Firefox 3.x
Regards Dr. Bob

Edited by - Dr. Bob on 11/13/2008 12:04:58
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bossarea
Forum Admin

United Kingdom
3652 Posts

Posted - 11/13/2008 :  11:52:53  Show Profile  Visit bossarea's Homepage  Reply with Quote
On IE it asks me if I want to close the window. If I answer yes, I'm brought to the main page. If I answer no, I get to the mp3s.
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PaulH
Gold Member

535 Posts

Posted - 11/13/2008 :  19:13:47  Show Profile  Visit PaulH's Homepage  Reply with Quote
You can get to them from my band's website.

http://www.thesoj.co.uk/music.htm
To play the tracks I mentioned, just scroll down to the following...
Playing With Fire, Confusion, and Cold Fire (Acoustic).

Enjoy.
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Dr. Bob
Moderator

Australia
6593 Posts

Posted - 11/14/2008 :  14:19:14  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi PaulH

Thanks very much for your bands link.

There is some good stuff in your play list.
I'm slowly working my way though them, while working here.

BTW, Great band picture, "Fishy Chicken"? On your About page.
Are you on the right or left?

Regards Dr. Bob
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PaulH
Gold Member

535 Posts

Posted - 11/15/2008 :  10:15:32  Show Profile  Visit PaulH's Homepage  Reply with Quote
On the right.
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Dr. Bob
Moderator

Australia
6593 Posts

Posted - 11/15/2008 :  12:04:30  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi PaulH

I listened to all the tracks a couple of times while working here last night.
They would love you guys at the local Folk club.

There is some really interesting guitar work on a lot of those tracks.
Some have a fleeting feeling of some other bands I listen to.

Good work guys & Joanne.
Regards Dr. Bob

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PaulH
Gold Member

535 Posts

Posted - 11/15/2008 :  21:27:36  Show Profile  Visit PaulH's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the support.



We try our best



Haven't recorded anything completely new in nearly 4 years.
It's only a hobby for us.

Plenty of work "in-progress" though.



Hopefully another album next year.
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