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diggum12
Silver Member
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 Posted - 01/07/2007 : 22:42:39
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Well I have to disagree with a lot of where this discussion is going. For me it's pretty easy to tell the difference in, say, the DS-1's different opamps. But I will agree it's not "night and day" differences. They're small and subtle at best, but I do hear them. With a band playing along? Probably not so much.
But let's go back to the older pedals for a moment here. Earlier I mentioned the GE-7. This weekend I played my MIJ DD-3 that I haven't played in several months. I instantly noticed something different about it: when bypassed it sucked some serious tone, like my bypassed MIJ GE-7!
Conclusion: When it comes to Boss pedals, just buy a new one. I think they do sound better. The output buffer is more discrete than the older ones, and the older ones have probably "drifted" a little bit over the years.
THIS IS ONLY MY OPINION, so don't bite my head off over this. 
So is there a difference? Oh yeah! But older doesn't necessarily mean better. |
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diggum12
Silver Member
USA
282 Posts |
Posted - 01/07/2007 : 22:47:30
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| I forgot to add: I did the DD-3 & GE-7 experiment through a True Bypass loop, so this wasn't just "perceived" tone sucking. It was pretty clear they were more muddy than the pure signal. Thx! |
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diggum12
Silver Member
USA
282 Posts |
Posted - 01/10/2007 : 20:21:45
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If you would put a weaker signal pedal through does it bring the signal up significantly.
No, a True Bypass loop isn't like a LS-2. There's no power to the signal in a True Bypass box. The only power in a TB box is just there to light up LEDs. So, it won't boost your signal at all.
Think of a True Bypass loop as an Effects Loop on an amp. But it has no buffer or anything besides just the switch to bring your pedals in and out of your signal.
The LS-2 is not True Bypass. No Boss pedals are True Bypass.  |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
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Posted - 01/12/2007 : 23:30:27
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not to get too much off topic diggum..i use an ls2 in my setup,i use loop A to loop my mod/delay pedals and loop B to feed my tu12 i find the gain control on the loop very handy especially when i put my tr2 in the loop as i was able to give it a little boost to combat the percieved volume'drop'....probably one of the best and most useful pedals i own.... |
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starr36
Platinum Member
Canada
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Posted - 01/12/2007 : 23:42:12
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the best advice I can give, is where possible, try before you buy (hard to do on evilBay) but at least if you have reasonably close access to a large city, pawnshops, music stores that trade gear, and local classified ad publications (in canada, bargainfinder.com),
its just too hard to generalize.
you cannot deny the mojo of a 1978 ds-1 skeleton switch/ss compared to a thinly painted 2002 MIT ds-1.
prices have seemed to really fallen in recent weeks on eBay, so it could be a good time to actively search out some pedals - last year at this time prices were high a DC-3 couldn't be found in good shape for less than $175USD, a PQ4s were minium 150, and HR-2s were 150 and up, all of these have been going between 100-130 quite easily lately. MIJ DS-1s can often be had for less than 100, even SS versions allthe evilbay pro pedal flippers tend to keep BIN prices high for all the above. i prefer to avoid the professional sellers, there is about 1 dozen of them very active, and its kind of sad to see one of them pickup a pedal for say $75 (because the listing ended at 3 am) and then sell it two weeks later for $125 on a BIN auction. ebay buyers need to get a little smarter |
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Japan, Taiwan, Vintage, Brand New?
