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natthu
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Australia
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Posted - 04/21/2009 :  15:36:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey Guys, I'm thinking of getting some sort of limiter or compressor to position before my octave pedal (I switch between Boss OC-3, Exar OC-04 and a Pearl OC-07 and am thinking of trying a Boss OC-02). Although this will be primarily for Bass, I also play guitar, so it would be best if the setup works for both.

I've heard this will help the octave pedal to track. Is this the case or should I try something else instead? Has anyone tried the LMB-2? I'm not worried about the brand, I just want something that works.

Goran
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Sweden
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Posted - 04/21/2009 :  20:39:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A compressor is better, it makes low volume notes be "heard" as being playing loader and vice versa. This is "good" for an octave, tracks better.
A good compressor also make the tone fatter.
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Laurie
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Canada
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Posted - 04/21/2009 :  20:56:51  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by natthu

Hey Guys, I'm thinking of getting some sort of limiter or compressor to position before my octave pedal (I switch between Boss OC-3, Exar OC-04 and a Pearl OC-07 and am thinking of trying a Boss OC-02).

Unrelated to your actual question... have you tried an EHX POG? Fantastic pedal... tracks like you wouldn't believe, including chords.

Edited by - Laurie on 04/21/2009 20:57:23
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natthu
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Australia
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Posted - 04/22/2009 :  12:13:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Laurie

Unrelated to your actual question... have you tried an EHX POG? Fantastic pedal... tracks like you wouldn't believe, including chords.



Yeah, I have thought about the POG & also the HOG, I am a big fan of EHX gear. Unfortunately it's pretty expensive to get EHX where I am as it's not that common, and to order it from the states usually hurts in the delivery cost department...

I'm pretty happy with the Pearl OC-07. It tracks a lot better than the other octaves I have. The POG is on my list under "maybe one day"... poly tracking would be good, although the OC-3 claims to do so, it's pretty useless at it.
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natthu
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Australia
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Posted - 04/22/2009 :  12:15:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Goran

A compressor is better, it makes low volume notes be "heard" as being playing loader and vice versa. This is "good" for an octave, tracks better.
A good compressor also make the tone fatter.



So which compressors are good? I've never really used one before, and I've heard conflicting opinions on the Boss CS range...
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Goran
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Sweden
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Posted - 04/22/2009 :  13:14:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by natthu

quote:
Originally posted by Goran

A compressor is better, it makes low volume notes be "heard" as being playing loader and vice versa. This is "good" for an octave, tracks better.
A good compressor also make the tone fatter.



So which compressors are good? I've never really used one before, and I've heard conflicting opinions on the Boss CS range...


The Boss ones are OK, but there are much better compressors around. Many of the good ones are clones of the gray Ross compressor, like the Keeley etc etc.
One that I like a lot, and it�s also quite cheap as you get a good overdrive included, is Visual Sound Route 66.
If you must go the Boss way, I think CS-2 is the best one, and with careful setting CS-3 is alright. CS-1 pumps like crazy and if you not like that, avoid it. It has a nice tone to it though.

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Dirk
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Netherlands
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Posted - 04/22/2009 :  16:52:59  Show Profile  Visit Dirk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
After nearly 15 years my trusty old CS-3 still works best for me.
I tried the LMB-3 which is pretty good.
I also tried the MXR dynacomp which I didn't like at all, cause it pumps too much for my taste.
In my live-rack I have a Boss RCL-10, but I use it in the amps FX loop, so that won't solve your problem.
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Rid
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Denmark
87 Posts

Posted - 04/22/2009 :  20:55:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Boss compressors are quite good....
The CS-3 gets a bad rap...but when used as a compressor(read not sustainer or boinger or what ever ) it is a good one, I like mine, got a LM-2 on the incoming as well...
Liked the older ones as well....CS-2 defently has its own sound going on, and the CS-1 is optical and has its quirks as well....but they are old and has been the standart for many years...
Most of the new boutique ones, are just another version of the old Ross/MXR variant....not compressors but more of the sustaining kind.
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zerksies
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USA
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Posted - 04/22/2009 :  22:41:02  Show Profile  Send zerksies an AOL message  Click to see zerksies's MSN Messenger address  Send zerksies a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
i use the cs-3 as a compressor
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Laurie
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Canada
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Posted - 04/22/2009 :  23:18:11  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
But if you buy a CS-3... take the back off before you pay for it and make sure it has the dBX chip (not the chip marked "THAT").
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zerksies
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Posted - 04/23/2009 :  02:13:29  Show Profile  Send zerksies an AOL message  Click to see zerksies's MSN Messenger address  Send zerksies a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
i really don't think that they will let you do that in a store
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verivorax
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Canada
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Posted - 04/23/2009 :  02:23:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Any store not trying to cheat you out of your money should let you look inside the pedal first. ESPECIALLY if it's used.
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Laurie
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Canada
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Posted - 04/23/2009 :  05:14:01  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
If they won't let you carefully look, don't buy it.
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Rid
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Denmark
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Posted - 04/23/2009 :  08:38:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
THAT bought DBX....same chip as before.
Just a new name on it.
Nothing wrong with THAT.
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natthu
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Australia
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Posted - 04/23/2009 :  09:38:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks everyone

I'm still not entirely sure what I want, but I now have a better idea of what I don't want (which is quite helpful). I guess I'll just have to try a few different pedals out... Perhaps I'll start with a CS-3.
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Laurie
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Canada
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Posted - 04/23/2009 :  14:41:14  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rid

THAT bought DBX....same chip as before.
Just a new name on it.
Nothing wrong with THAT.


Didn't know that... (THAT).

Whatever the genesis, there is an audible difference between the CS-3's with the dBX and the CS-3's with the THAT. I have had over 10 CS-3's across the bench and it's very consistent.

Thinking some more, maybe it isn't the dBX chip itself that makes the difference - it might just be the "indicator" - some other change may have happened when they swapped to THAT. Can't for the life of me see what that would be though - the boards look identical apart from the VCA.

Edited by - Laurie on 04/23/2009 16:05:49
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