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pedals 4 pv
Platinum Member

Canada
1351 Posts

Posted - 10/06/2007 :  07:20:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The delay feature of a Rv-3 make it quite versatile as you can have delay or reverb or both. I use my DSD-2 before my TR-2 and the Rv-3 after.
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StratoSphere
Double Platinum Member

Canada
2232 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2007 :  00:16:59  Show Profile  Send StratoSphere an AOL message  Click to see StratoSphere's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
does the RV-5 feature a delay setting as well? i know that the RV-2 has a delay feature. also how does the RV-3 differ from the RV-2?
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marqueemoon
Bronze Member

USA
121 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2007 :  00:26:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
RV-2 has delay but it is only a straight delay. I believe the RV-5 does not have delay. The RV-3 has 3 straight delay modes, 4 reverb/delay modes, and 4 straight reverb modes. I wouldn't mind finding an RV-2 someday but I love my RV-3.
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pedals 4 pv
Platinum Member

Canada
1351 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2007 :  00:29:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
RV-2 draws`twice the power of the RV-3,at 130ma it's Boss's highest drawing pedal. RV-5 doesn't have delay but is full stereo. RV-3 is the best choice for a reverb pedal

Edited by - pedals 4 pv on 10/07/2007 00:35:55
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ChristoMephisto
Platinum Member

Canada
1288 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2007 :  04:36:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Now if we can only get the analog delay sound from the RV-3.
On Analogman's site, he offers it as a mod that works only on the delay, without affecting the reverb. The Hi end cut
http://www.analogman.com/dd5.htm

Did the hi cut mod my mij DD-3 and it sounds wonderful.
Really nice and warm, you can really tell compared to the RV-3's delay
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StratoSphere
Double Platinum Member

Canada
2232 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2007 :  15:56:29  Show Profile  Send StratoSphere an AOL message  Click to see StratoSphere's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
christo, did you do the hi-cut yourself?? much different?
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ChristoMephisto
Platinum Member

Canada
1288 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2007 :  16:32:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yep, pretty easy mod to do. Added a .1uf cap to the outer lugs on the Effects knob, or rather the pcb attached to it. Can be done on the Feedback too, but there is more room in the pedal on the E knob.
From the suggested values, I went with the lowest. Its also suggested to use a .22,.47,or a 1uf cap. The higher the value, the more highs are taken out. It gives it a much nicer delay compared to the rv3 delay.
Warmer, fades out more naturally. Almost a compressed sound with a fast attack. Can't remember if you could get infinite repeats from a dd-3, but the rv-3 at full feedback will. Had to pull it back to 9 for it to fade out, even then it was tinny.
Since the dd3 is a power hog, the battery chamber is a good place to put a mini-toggle if your one who doesn't like maiming their pedals.
Gonna grab a cup of joe and try the hi cut on the rv3
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Dr. Bob
Moderator

Australia
6593 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2007 :  16:47:02  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ChristoMephisto

Yep, pretty easy mod to do. Added a .1uf cap to the outer lugs on the Effects knob, or rather the pcb attached to it. Can be done on the Feedback too, but there is more room in the pedal on the E knob.
From the suggested values, I went with the lowest. Its also suggested to use a .22,.47,or a 1uf cap. The higher the value, the more highs are taken out. It gives it a much nicer delay compared to the rv3 delay.
Warmer, fades out more naturally. Almost a compressed sound with a fast attack. Can't remember if you could get infinite repeats from a dd-3, but the rv-3 at full feedback will. Had to pull it back to 9 for it to fade out, even then it was tinny.
Since the dd3 is a power hog, the battery chamber is a good place to put a mini-toggle if your one who doesn't like maiming their pedals.
Gonna grab a cup of joe and try the hi cut on the rv3



Hey Christo

While you have it apart, take some pics for us, who don't yet have an RV-3.
Maybe even picture document the mod.

Regards Dr. Bob
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ChristoMephisto
Platinum Member

Canada
1288 Posts

Posted - 10/08/2007 :  22:08:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Added a dp3t toggle to my DD3, the hicut mod doesn't seem to work on the RV3's f.back lugs...
Used my original mod value of .1uf, and a 1uf cap. the 1uf is too dark, practically cuts the highs. Didn't have a .47 cap to try, but went with a .047 and I like it alot too. You can really tell the difference in stereo
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Dr. Bob
Moderator

Australia
6593 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2007 :  08:33:25  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ChristoMephisto

Added a dp3t toggle to my DD3, the hicut mod doesn't seem to work on the RV3's f.back lugs...
Used my original mod value of .1uf, and a 1uf cap. the 1uf is too dark, practically cuts the highs. Didn't have a .47 cap to try, but went with a .047 and I like it alot too. You can really tell the difference in stereo



Hi Christo
Remember your cap theory.
1uf + 1uf in series = 0.5uf close enough to 0.47uf.
I know it ends up a bit bulky, but at least, as an interim measure,
it would let you try that value out.

Regards Dr. Bob
PS - Christo, I'm thinking of getting that car with the independent suspension.

Edited by - Dr. Bob on 10/09/2007 08:34:33
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member

Ireland
3543 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2007 :  09:48:25  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
christo....do you have an analog delay to compare the hi cut mod for the dd3 to...? i been keeping an eye out in the hope of picking up a dm2/3 in a pawnbrokers or cash converters etc.. as i would like it for slapback but if it worked on a dd3 i would be willing to give it a go on one of mine....

quote
PS -" Christo, I'm thinking of getting that car with the independent suspension". (and a fine chassis on it as well doc...heh heh...)

if i buy any more gear before the dust settles on the dynacord unit mrs franzoni will make sure i'm gonna need some sort of independent suspension as well......probably traction in a hospital bed.........

Edited by - FRANZONI on 10/09/2007 09:49:59
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Dr. Bob
Moderator

Australia
6593 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2007 :  10:20:14  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by FRANZONI

christo....do you have an analog delay to compare the hi cut mod for the dd3 to...? i been keeping an eye out in the hope of picking up a dm2/3 in a pawnbrokers or cash converters etc.. as i would like it for slapback but if it worked on a dd3 i would be willing to give it a go on one of mine....

quote
PS -" Christo, I'm thinking of getting that car with the independent suspension". (and a fine chassis on it as well doc...heh heh...)

if i buy any more gear before the dust settles on the dynacord unit mrs franzoni will make sure i'm gonna need some sort of independent suspension as well......probably traction in a hospital bed.........



Hi FRANZONI
You are taking the wrong apporoch.
Tell-convince Mrs FRANZONI, that the Dynacord unit is to help teach your girls:
Spacial Perception in Acoustic Space & the Psychoacoustic Phenomena that can be created by BBD chips.
A Truly Just & Nobel cause.
Not to mention, that they will be way in front of their class mates.

Or some other like that..... Just use lots of big words!

See problem solved.

Regards Dr. Bob

Edited by - Dr. Bob on 10/09/2007 10:24:01
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member

Ireland
3543 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2007 :  10:34:20  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
hmm...sort of like the doppler effect.........nice one Doc......
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ChristoMephisto
Platinum Member

Canada
1288 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2007 :  14:12:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Bob

quote:
Originally posted by ChristoMephisto

Added a dp3t toggle to my DD3, the hicut mod doesn't seem to work on the RV3's f.back lugs...
Used my original mod value of .1uf, and a 1uf cap. the 1uf is too dark, practically cuts the highs. Didn't have a .47 cap to try, but went with a .047 and I like it alot too. You can really tell the difference in stereo



Hi Christo
Remember your cap theory.
1uf + 1uf in series = 0.5uf close enough to 0.47uf.
I know it ends up a bit bulky, but at least, as an interim measure,
it would let you try that value out.

Regards Dr. Bob
PS - Christo, I'm thinking of getting that car with the independent suspension.



Does that mean your going to trade in your current mode for the newer and better(younger)model?

I know, just couldn't be bothered to solder two caps in series on the end of a toggle switch, lazy day. The .1 sounded good, 1 was horrible, so i went down to .047 for a less of a hi cut. Got the toggle hanging out the battery chamber, looks a little funny...wheres that drill?

No I don't have an analog delay to compare, wish I did tho
Saw a DM-2 a while back, but I debated it too long and it was gone a few days later. Read a lot of reviews/comments about the hi cut mod on the dd2/mij-dd3 that ppl were convinced enough by the sound, some even have DMs to compare them to. Best to install a switch even if you go with one cap, or you'll miss the sharp feedback sound you like sometimes. The DD-3's straight delay sound is better sounding than the RV-3's delay.
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ChristoMephisto
Platinum Member

Canada
1288 Posts

Posted - 10/16/2007 :  15:29:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Found a site where you can hear the sound demos
http://www.diyeffects.com/delay.htm
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