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hot tubes
Silver Member

Canada
162 Posts

Posted - 01/29/2009 :  06:02:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hello to the forum.

i have tryed to mod a DS1 and in my opinion it is sounding great ,
but one problem still exists , i have this high pitch squeel or
like a feedback sound when i turn the gain nob to almost the max.
this happens at real low volumes also , its going to mess up a
otherwise good mod imo .

any help would great . thanks.



Edited by - hot tubes on 01/29/2009 06:03:31

leonard d rock
Silver Member

Philippines
301 Posts

Posted - 01/29/2009 :  09:57:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
check you solder points and traces. your solder may have spit and shorted two components which shouldn't be connected.

ldr
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cctsim
Silver Member

United Kingdom
418 Posts

Posted - 01/29/2009 :  11:47:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What kind of mods have you performed ?

Some further info would be useful to identify what causes the problem.

Edited by - cctsim on 01/29/2009 15:44:44
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hot tubes
Silver Member

Canada
162 Posts

Posted - 01/29/2009 :  14:44:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
your basic changes , cap ,resistor , clipping diodes , its a blend of
a few different mods , i was trying to get alot of gain out of the
pedal , it was to be used as a stand alone distortion pedal , not as
a boost pedal , i need a big full sound out of it , and so far it was going well . i have checked the solders and they appear ok.

the clipping diodes sit very close together , if the solder was to
cover both points on the back side would that cause this problem ,
that is the only place that looks suspicious ?

thanks again
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member

USA
3406 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2009 :  00:21:47  Show Profile  Send zerksies an AOL message  Click to see zerksies's MSN Messenger address  Send zerksies a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
that is a possibility
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cctsim
Silver Member

United Kingdom
418 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2009 :  00:50:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
R13 and C8 can be critical.

If R13 is set to low it will result in high gain and oscillation.

What values did you set them to ?
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hot tubes
Silver Member

Canada
162 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2009 :  02:06:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
r13 was changed to 2.2k
c8 was changed to 1 uf

other values were also changed to:
c3 to .022
c10 to .033
r11 to 100 k
r14 to 2.2 k

and the clipping diode is as follows :

d4 4148 in series with a 3mm LED
d5 4148 in series with a 3mm LED

this may be a strange clipping set up , but it sounded good to me ?
any sugestions would be welcome .

thanks for your help .
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cctsim
Silver Member

United Kingdom
418 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2009 :  03:21:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
R11 and R14 are the same values as the original.

Did you just use better quality resistors ?

It is worth double checking R11. In the past, I have mixed myself 100k with 1M a few times.

The polarity of the diodes is also worth double checking.
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hot tubes
Silver Member

Canada
162 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2009 :  04:38:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
my mod sheet calls for those values in R14 and R11, strange ??
rechecked both values with my meter and there right on ,100k & 2.2 !
and also rechecked the diode polarity , seems to be ok.
in your opinion does C8 & R13 sound right for value ?
i was hoping to get more gain from this pedal without giving up
alot of tone.

thanks
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cctsim
Silver Member

United Kingdom
418 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2009 :  06:17:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The C8 & R13 values you are using are ok.

I would try changing C7 from 10pF to 220pF or even 470pF.
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hot tubes
Silver Member

Canada
162 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2009 :  17:11:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
what effect does the c7 have on the tone etc. ?
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cctsim
Silver Member

United Kingdom
418 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2009 :  22:55:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
C7 is located in the feedback loop of the frequency amplifier and if increased will roll-off the high frequencies a bit faster.


Edited by - cctsim on 01/30/2009 23:05:56
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cctsim
Silver Member

United Kingdom
418 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2009 :  23:07:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What is the name of this mod by the way or what is the modder/designer ?

Could you disclose this info ?
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hot tubes
Silver Member

Canada
162 Posts

Posted - 02/01/2009 :  17:49:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
this is a blend of 2 mods taking the good parts of each and
trying to put it together for a mod that has a fair amount
gain , but has a big full sound on its own . i have found that
on some DS1 mods the gain is great , but it lacks in the tone
dept. , so i'm trying to get heavy gain with great tone , so
far its going great , by far better than stock !!!

thanks again for your help

Edited by - hot tubes on 02/01/2009 17:51:29
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hot tubes
Silver Member

Canada
162 Posts

Posted - 02/03/2009 :  04:58:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
my squeal still remains when the gain is at or near the max.
back it off just a little and it goes away .this mod sounds great but this noise is driving me to drink !!

any other ideas ?

thanks a million !
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