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Johnrocks
Silver Member

Brazil
175 Posts

Posted - 10/13/2006 :  20:35:36  Show Profile  Visit Johnrocks's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hey, hi there! It�s been a long time since my last post here (it was about a MIJ GE7)and then, well, here I am with another question. In my case I don�t need a lot of pedals (HUGE Randy Rhoads fan here)cuz I�ll play hard/pop rock. So, my setup is:
- TU 2
- OD 1 (with that JRC 4558 DD chip)--> 85!
- GE7 (MIJ and it�s 85 too, I think)
- BF2 (MIJ but 89)
- MXR Micro Amp (my "volume" pedal)
- RV3

I�ve been thinking about selling my RV3 and the MXR in order to get DM2 or a DM3. So, here are the questions:

1) What are the diffs between DM2 and DM3? I�m not talking only about chips and circuits, but about the sound too.
2) Who is the best? DM2 or DM3?
3)What are your impressions about RV3?
4) Can you please compare RV3 with DM2 and DM3?
5) I think that we musicians have our personal choices, but what would you do if you were on my shoes?

My influencies are Randy Rhoads, Gary Moore (from the 80�s) and George Lynch. I play christian hard rock but I�ve been changing my songs to pop rock but no so soft. I need your help brothers! =)))

God bless you all,

John

Sunburst
Silver Member

427 Posts

Posted - 10/13/2006 :  21:09:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
To answer some of the questions.

1. DM-2 is slightly darker sounding, and have a warmer sound. DM-3 has a clearer sound, a noise reduction cirquit built in, and also slightly longer maximum delaytime.

2. Which sounds best is a matter of personal opinion. I prefer the DM-2 myself.

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Johnrocks
Silver Member

Brazil
175 Posts

Posted - 10/13/2006 :  23:20:44  Show Profile  Visit Johnrocks's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sunburst

To answer some of the questions.

1. DM-2 is slightly darker sounding, and have a warmer sound. DM-3 has a clearer sound, a noise reduction cirquit built in, and also slightly longer maximum delaytime.

2. Which sounds best is a matter of personal opinion. I prefer the DM-2 myself.





Hi Sunburst! Tks for your reply.
I made my choice and got a DM-2. I had the chance to compare the two pedals (DM-2 and DM-3) and in my opinion the DM-3 was a lil agressive and didn�t sound as clear as the DM-2. So, accordding to Boss Area, I got a DM-2A. I still wanna hear your opinion people!

John
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Basstyra
Gold Member

France
523 Posts

Posted - 10/14/2006 :  09:41:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Technically speaking, DM-3 is better. Noise reduction, more Hi Fi. That's why people say dm-2 is "darker". It's just less trebly, and more noisy.

I personnally prefer the DD-6 for crystal clear delays, so in fact I don't really like the DM-3 that much. If you're looking for a "bad" analog delay, with instability, noise, distortion, all what does the charm of an analog delay, go for a DM-2.

The RV-3 is a digital reverb. It includes a delay, yep, but a digital one. There's just NO comparison to do between analog and digital delays. First are lofi, noisy, unstable (musically speaking : darker, warmer...), seconds are hifi, noise free, perfetcly respectful for your sound (musically speaking : brighter).

Go for analog is you want your delay to modifie your sound. Go for digital if you want it just to repeat strictly what you play.

I personnally made my choice on a DD-6 for my bass, and an Ibanez analog delay for my guitar.
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Sunburst
Silver Member

427 Posts

Posted - 10/14/2006 :  10:28:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Basstyra


I personnally prefer the DD-6 for crystal clear delays, so in fact I don't really like the DM-3 that much. If you're looking for a "bad" analog delay, with instability, noise, distortion, all what does the charm of an analog delay, go for a DM-2.



If a DM-2 sounds like you describe, it has been tampered with and the pots have been touched. There is none of what you describe in a normal functioning DM-2.

There is definately no distortion, and it is actually pretty quiet. Most people including myself would not think of the DM-2 as a "bad" analog delay.
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Basstyra
Gold Member

France
523 Posts

Posted - 10/14/2006 :  10:55:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ok, my bad, then. But then I guess DM-2 and DM-3 are not as different as some people tell.

By "bad" I didn't meant bad, of course. It wouldn't be sought after if it were bad. I have a DM-3 and it's a great delay, so why wouldn't the DM-2 be great ? Let's not be mistaken about what I said.

For me, the quality of an analog delay is to be lo-fi. That's why people find them warm, dark. And lo-fi is, technically speaking, "bad" functionning. So I tend to think the "badder" the better, concerning analog delays... And the DM-3 is a little too wise to my ears,not wild enough.

But of course, having tested an Emerald Echo by Morley, I know what a really bad analog delay can be...

Edited by - Basstyra on 10/14/2006 10:57:51
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Johnrocks
Silver Member

Brazil
175 Posts

Posted - 10/21/2006 :  04:41:20  Show Profile  Visit Johnrocks's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Basstyra

Ok, my bad, then. But then I guess DM-2 and DM-3 are not as different as some people tell.

By "bad" I didn't meant bad, of course. It wouldn't be sought after if it were bad. I have a DM-3 and it's a great delay, so why wouldn't the DM-2 be great ? Let's not be mistaken about what I said.

For me, the quality of an analog delay is to be lo-fi. That's why people find them warm, dark. And lo-fi is, technically speaking, "bad" functionning. So I tend to think the "badder" the better, concerning analog delays... And the DM-3 is a little too wise to my ears,not wild enough.

But of course, having tested an Emerald Echo by Morley, I know what a really bad analog delay can be...



Well, I brought my pedalboard with me and tried DM-2 and DM-3 and I really realised some diff between them. DM-3 had a lil gain and sounded "a lil agressive" compared to the DM-2 I tried (mine is the second version from 82). I tried them with the same settings. IN MY opinion, DM-2 sounded better and softer than the DM-3. Now I uderstood why I didn�t get DM-3 last year. But well, this is my opinion.Here it is:

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silvertone6120
Gold Member

USA
609 Posts

Posted - 10/23/2006 :  14:30:22  Show Profile  Visit silvertone6120's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Forgive me if I'm posting this in the wrong place; I didn't feel like posting a new thread on this altogether...

But I just saw an ebay auction that ended yesterday for a "mint DM-2 with box and sticker"...I was watching this auction, but I was away when it ended(didn't really need one that bad, I already have three). Anyway, the winning bid was $344! Is it just me, or did someone go a little crazy on the bidding??
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StratoSphere
Double Platinum Member

Canada
2232 Posts

Posted - 10/23/2006 :  23:13:53  Show Profile  Send StratoSphere an AOL message  Click to see StratoSphere's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
hey silvertone, its not just you. i think the DC's and DM's have been taking off lately.
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