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silvertone6120
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USA
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Posted - 09/21/2009 :  04:50:55  Show Profile  Visit silvertone6120's Homepage  Reply with Quote
This topic reminds me of a story a friend of mine told me a few years ago. Her husband is a fantastic Teleblaster in the Indianapolis area. He can play it all, from rockabilly to metal. Well, one night he has a roots rock/rockabilly gig, and he wanted to travel light...anyway, he's getting such a tremendous and true "vintage" sound out of his gear, some of the 'billy "snobs" in the audience, including friends of his, wanted to check out his rig, because they just knew that behind that sweet tweed Fender was a nice Echoplex or Space Echo unit. He put one over on 'em...because behind the tweed amp(which, by the way, was a newer Victoria not a Fender) sat a lowly Dan-Echo pedal!

Bottom line...when it comes to gear, don't let your wallet overload your ears...use what you like and what makes you sound good!
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Laurie
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Canada
4854 Posts

Posted - 09/21/2009 :  13:57:08  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jack
That being said, I still don't see myself ever buying a modelling amp with effects, tuner, and GPS all built into it

Indeed.
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FRANZONI
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Ireland
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Posted - 09/21/2009 :  19:29:40  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Horses for courses.. i have a 67 fender coronado that is a great guitar but not for my regular gig,it excels at low volume jazz/blues or acoustic type stuff but no way could i use it on 80% of the stuff i do night to night... personally i like older,simpler amps as i like to be able to dial up a good tone quickly plus i use pedals to alter the sound i don't need lots of options in an amp...also i find my older amps are much easier to fiddle around and fix when something goes bang in the night..no high tech circuit boards stacked on each other or pots etc hardwired to the board....
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phostenix
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USA
754 Posts

Posted - 09/22/2009 :  01:04:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
On a semi-related note, I was looking for some info on an old Pioneer stereo amp from the 70's that I have. It turns out that the old Pioneer "silver face" stereo gear from the 70's has a devout following, too. Something about the black face gear of the 80's using cheaper parts & just not sounding as good....

Sound familiar?
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jack
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USA
1418 Posts

Posted - 09/22/2009 :  01:08:29  Show Profile  Visit jack's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by phostenix

On a semi-related note, I was looking for some info on an old Pioneer stereo amp from the 70's that I have. It turns out that the old Pioneer "silver face" stereo gear from the 70's has a devout following, too. Something about the black face gear of the 80's using cheaper parts & just not sounding as good....

Sound familiar?



That does sound familiar. However most electronics these days don't seem to be made to be repaired, so perhaps in 2039, 2009 stuff may not have mojo, other than,"This survived for 30 years."
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phostenix
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USA
754 Posts

Posted - 09/22/2009 :  01:13:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by DeFrag
Forget digital machines with minimalistic controls & all 200 functions & parameters buried in menus; what a bane to productivity.



Funny, my experience has been just the opposite. I found the endless A/Bing of this pedal & that to be consuming most of my guitar time. Having the GT-Pro has been liberating for me. I've got (almost) all the sounds I want in one box now. Programming does take some time to learn, but I find having the ability to have any combination of sounds assignable on the foot controller far easier than dealing with an array of pedals and cables.

I guess that's why Boss still makes both.
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Goran
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Sweden
2203 Posts

Posted - 09/22/2009 :  13:40:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Many things sounded better 30-50 years ago, but there was also shit produced.
For instance the 60�s and early 70�s Japanese guitars were often/always really, really bad.
Mid 70�s to early 80�s Fenders was no good either, compared to today�s Fenders.

Most of the vintage stuff cost a fortune because that they are collectibles, just like old stamps. I would rather have a DD-20 over a DM-2 for pure playing, but the mojo-factor is much higher on DM-2. And as an investment DM-2 is much better.

I like vintage stuff but I�m not prepared to pay astronomical money for them, no way! The mojo is important for me, to a degree, but new things can also have mojo, like a well built guitar.

I like some digital stuff, like DD-20 or Line6 Spider III, but I really dislike Line6 digital guitars, uuurk�.
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