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guitarfreak1387
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USA
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Posted - 06/14/2009 :  23:44:21  Show Profile  Visit guitarfreak1387's Homepage  Send guitarfreak1387 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
i just got a ce3 the other day. its mij and in real bad shape. (see pics lol)

the sales person told me it worked so i took his word for it. i get home and it passes signal but no chorus what so ever!

So i open her up and i find that the board has been pushed down from the damage to the bottom cover being dented. im not able to lift up the board as it is stuck in there.

the front. with missing pad


the back pannel with the dent.


the side with the shark bite and the output b dent


you can see that the board is pushed down on one side


this is were i belive my problem is. you can tell right by the green wire on the top that part of the boards circit is not there.

Edited by - guitarfreak1387 on 06/14/2009 23:45:22

cctsim
Silver Member

United Kingdom
418 Posts

Posted - 06/15/2009 :  04:34:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Try to take the dc socket first out so that you get some wiggle room for the pcb.
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copper
Bronze Member

USA
73 Posts

Posted - 06/15/2009 :  04:39:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
How much you pay for that boi? Hopefully less than $5.
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bassinyourface
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France
76 Posts

Posted - 06/15/2009 :  10:39:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
WOW

A veteran of too many wars I guess
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member

Canada
4854 Posts

Posted - 06/15/2009 :  10:56:41  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Gently push the right-hand side of the board further in while lifting the left hand side. Wiggle it a bit and you should be able to get it out.

A break on that track will ensure no chorus - it is the clock drive.
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ChristoMephisto
Platinum Member

Canada
1288 Posts

Posted - 06/15/2009 :  11:04:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow, first Boss case I've seen broken, yet still functions
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Dirk
Platinum Member

Netherlands
1309 Posts

Posted - 06/15/2009 :  17:26:02  Show Profile  Visit Dirk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Wow, that's a lot of damage, guitarfreak.

Makes me wonder what kind of shoes some people wear, armyboots with reinforced concrete soles?

It would be nice if you could bring it back to life, I really like my CE-3.
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guitarfreak1387
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USA
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Posted - 06/16/2009 :  20:41:21  Show Profile  Visit guitarfreak1387's Homepage  Send guitarfreak1387 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
So what do you think the problem could be?

I got the board out of there with a little force, I have a pic but can't post it cus I'm on the road for work.

Could the Broken trace be the only reason why it's not working?

I'm a noob with electric repair, so bear with me.
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Laurie
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Canada
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Posted - 06/16/2009 :  21:58:27  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Fix the break in the track - I'm 95% sure that will fix it. That break stops the clock for the chorus - so the sound will just be shunted through the BBD without modulation.

In non technical speak, with that track broken, the "on" sound will be the same as the "off" sound.
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guitarfreak1387
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USA
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Posted - 06/16/2009 :  23:20:17  Show Profile  Visit guitarfreak1387's Homepage  Send guitarfreak1387 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
How would I go about fixing that?

Like I said I'm clueless on this part of pedals, some help would be great!
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Laurie
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Canada
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Posted - 06/16/2009 :  23:52:47  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by guitarfreak1387

How would I go about fixing that?


How do you feel about soldering? Or perhaps you have a friend who could do it?
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guitarfreak1387
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USA
91 Posts

Posted - 06/17/2009 :  00:06:23  Show Profile  Visit guitarfreak1387's Homepage  Send guitarfreak1387 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Myself..... I wouldent dare, first mij, it's special to me, even in it's condition.

But yeah I have a friends dad that could help.
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Laurie
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Canada
4854 Posts

Posted - 06/17/2009 :  01:05:15  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
OK... it's a simple repair. It just needs a small piece of insulated hook-up wire (similar to the wire Boss uses inside the pedal) to go between these two points:


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TKO Ken
Silver Member

USA
162 Posts

Posted - 06/18/2009 :  05:26:45  Show Profile  Visit TKO Ken's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Laurie, that would do it but I don't think I would go from point to point with this fix. There is a fair chance that the sharp componant lead ends might cut through the meniscus of the jumper wire and cause a short. I would scrape off the coating down to the copper on each side of the broken trace and solder a short jumper at the spot of the break then cover the solder joints with super glue. Just my 2 cents.
Cheers,
Ken
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member

Canada
4854 Posts

Posted - 06/18/2009 :  05:55:51  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TKO Ken

Laurie, that would do it but I don't think I would go from point to point with this fix. There is a fair chance that the sharp componant lead ends might cut through the meniscus of the jumper wire and cause a short. I would scrape off the coating down to the copper on each side of the broken trace and solder a short jumper at the spot of the break then cover the solder joints with super glue. Just my 2 cents.
Cheers,
Ken


Yeah, thought of that, but with folks who are a little inexperienced with soldering the point-to-point jumper is an easier fix. Scraping back to copper and doing a clean bridge is a bit harder to do. I reckon it should be fine - there is no real pressure on it when the board is seated properly.

Another way would be to tack the jumper to the component legs on the other side of the board.

IF the person doing the soldering is experienced, TKO Ken's way would indeed be best.

Just my $0.03 worth
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