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marqueemoon
Bronze Member

USA
121 Posts

Posted - 09/25/2007 :  05:02:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My PW-2 sounded similar to an Electro Harmonix English Muff'n so much that it was scary. I've had a PW-2 kicking around for awhile and only used it so often, and I bought a used English Muff'n a while back, and my PW-2 on lower gain settings (somewhere in the 9'o'clock ballpark) virtually matched the tone of the Muff'n maxxed out. And if you didn't know, the Muff'n employs two AY-7 tubes. I ended up taking the Muff'n back that same week. I realize that results will more than likely vary depending on your set up, but I thought it was worth telling regardless. A lot of people bash the PW-2, and although I always had a soft spot for it, it definitely earned some more respect from me.

ronster
Gold Member

Australia
645 Posts

Posted - 09/25/2007 :  06:52:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm with you. I think the PW-2 is a littel gem of a pedal. Not everyones cup of tea, but I love the real bassy sounds!
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Goran
Double Platinum Member

Sweden
2203 Posts

Posted - 09/25/2007 :  07:40:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I also think PW-2 is a usable pedal, at first I didn�t like it. But the huge bottom end makes it unique among Boss pedals, the recent ML-2 have that too.
It�s also a bit collectable, and I like that too�.
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Gizzorge
Silver Member

USA
245 Posts

Posted - 09/25/2007 :  17:49:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"Talk about mudflaps, the PW-2s got em.......hehehe (Spinal Tap rules!)

Yeah that thing has some nice bass. Very underrated.

I would also add that the MD-2 has got some nice bump in the trunk also.
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StratoSphere
Double Platinum Member

Canada
2232 Posts

Posted - 09/25/2007 :  23:57:07  Show Profile  Send StratoSphere an AOL message  Click to see StratoSphere's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
haha nice quote, gizzorge.

also about the MD-2, that pedal is my secret (or not so secret) weapon. its really good as long as you dont do the idiot setting. find the sweet spot!!!

and i fully agree that the PW-2 is dangerously similar to a Big Muff. kinda ODish in the lower settings and almost fuzzy as you crank higher.
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Gizzorge
Silver Member

USA
245 Posts

Posted - 09/26/2007 :  03:18:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by StratoSphere

haha nice quote, gizzorge.

also about the MD-2, that pedal is my secret (or not so secret) weapon. its really good as long as you dont do the idiot setting. find the sweet spot!!!

and i fully agree that the PW-2 is dangerously similar to a Big Muff. kinda ODish in the lower settings and almost fuzzy as you crank higher.



Man you a right on about both of those pedals! The MD-2 is a hairy beast, but if you dial it in, it is hard to beat. The idiot setting is just feedback city.
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marqueemoon
Bronze Member

USA
121 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2007 :  01:51:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would imagine that the Muff'n would shine through a solid state amp where the PW-2 might not. The English Muff'n is pretty much what it sounds like, a "British" sounding overdrive, but I was able to get the same tones out of the PW-2 dialed back a bit. I don't really think either of them sound like a Big Muff, but both pedals sound quite good.
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StratoSphere
Double Platinum Member

Canada
2232 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2007 :  13:25:55  Show Profile  Send StratoSphere an AOL message  Click to see StratoSphere's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
oh i didnt realize that you originally said English Muffn. ive never tried it. but like i said, Big Muff = PW-2
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Caliban
Bronze Member

United Kingdom
145 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2007 :  22:36:57  Show Profile  Click to see Caliban's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Can't agree, I'm afraid. The PW-2 is a waffly pedal. Sure, it has some OK sounds, but in general it's a middling idea, badly executed. The Muff'n, however, is a proper valve pre-amp; it's not supposed to have a great deal of distortion to it, but it has a sweet, responsive tone. It's easy to get Vox, Marshall Plexi or Hiwatt tones out of it; where as the PW-2 is a definite poor relation, even to all the other Boss OD's.

(For what it's worth, I use the Muff'n all the time. The PW-2 was E-bay fodder from the moment I bought it).
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marqueemoon
Bronze Member

USA
121 Posts

Posted - 09/28/2007 :  05:34:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I agree with what you said about it being a proper preamp. Like I mentioned earlier, it really hinges on the amplifier sitting behind it as well. I have a pretty neutral sounding amp that takes pedals quite well (old Music Man combo) and play mainly single coil guitars through it and with my stuff the tones were so close I couldn't believe it. If you were to compare a PW-2 and a Muff'n through a solid state amp, there truly would be no comparison. For me, the PW-2 is really only usuable well under the 12'oclock mark. The Muff'n is great, don't get me wrong, but it is not untouchable.
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StratoSphere
Double Platinum Member

Canada
2232 Posts

Posted - 09/29/2007 :  03:59:52  Show Profile  Send StratoSphere an AOL message  Click to see StratoSphere's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
well i just finished playing with my PW-2 again and im convinced that it sounds good as long as you treat it like a fuzz pedal. playing chords doesnt work for me with this pedal. i find it sounds best with single notes or power chords at the most, and like fuzz, NO PALM-MUTES!!!
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DeFrag
Moderator

USA
3409 Posts

Posted - 09/29/2007 :  06:30:20  Show Profile  Visit DeFrag's Homepage  Click to see DeFrag's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Yup, my PW-2 really breaks up chordal work. But I'm happy to have it in the arsenal due to its bottom.

One thing I can say about (OT) my MT-2 is that its one of the cleanest, quality sounding distortions I've ever heard.. especially with its parametric EQ. Its my goto dist even if I crank it down a bit. I wish it had some OD qualities though.
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