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Originally posted by Ward

Thank guys for your replies and welcome.
Laurie, the looper mixer of yours looks like a great idea. At the moment I have dialed the bias trimmer down so I get almost no phasing at all. You can hear that the pedal is doing something but it's very subtle, it adds a bit of brightness on top as well and you don't hear it as a phaser but more like some kind of enhanser. It's really tricky to dial in with the trimmer but when you get it, it just adds some life to the tone.

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Originally posted by Ward

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Originally posted by gmreszel

Nice amps! It's funny, one usually sees the wall of speakers dwarfing the amps but here it's the other way around,
cheers you too.

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Yes gmreszel, I always seem to buck the trends But seriously, even when I gig with a 100 watter I only take two 12s. I don't and never have owned a truck and I'm no King Kong either so quad boxes are not for me. Another thing too, I usually have one of the 12s leaning back so I know exactly how LOUD I am, this is usually not the case with most folks who sport the quadies, I've obviously played through them but I found that I couldn't hear them unless I dimed the 100 watter, you can imagine how loud that was out the front. So I have about 8 single 12'' boxes that I made, well I've made about 50 of em over the years, some are cubes, some are wedge shaped, some open back, some closed. You won't see too many blokes with a speaker hitting them in the body part that matters, the ear. You don't need a quad to get great tone, the sort of bottom end that the quad gives will only do it a great volume anyway.
This pic would be a typical setup and yes, I've done gigs with this setup and a 100 watter, what's that you say Cheers.

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Originally posted by gmreszel

Hi Ward, I'm curious - how are you running the phaser?; before you change anything in your setup I'm curious of your order.

Also what phased tone is too loud - are you phasing a distorted tone or a clean tone where it is too much phase?

My take if it's dirty VH phase you want: I've used the 90 for years and in a myriad of ways. If you want to nail the Van Halen thing the most important thing is to run the phase before any distortion modifier not after as many advocate. If you run it after distortion it phases and modifies the tone (and of course the phase) so this can mean way too much phasing imo.

When Eddie ran through all of his toys the last item on his food chain was of course his Marshall which produced the distortion. Since distortion is a form of compression it tames the phase. The same was true when he ran a flanger.

That is why for years I've run my modulation modifiers before my gain modifiers - I love a dirtied chorus, flange or phase (plug into your 90, then go into your dirt, set the speed fully ccw, mute strings with fretting hand, rub/strum the heel of your picking hand on the strings by the bridge and you're now THE Atomic Punk).

Also I've found using chorus, phase and such in loops changes the gain tone and levels too much (whether it be the cheapest pedal or the best Lexicon or Eventide). Just the nature of what's going on in these modulators means it's going to change the tone of your gain or cause volume modulation that'll make it tough to sound smooth in a mix or pleasing to your ear. The only time when I've enjoyed modulating the gain is in a studio where you could mix and do what you want and to a lesser degree, a parallel loop (like on my recto but then the effect is kinda weak).

This is a completely moot post if your issue is with too much phase mix on a clean sound in which case please ignore me completely!

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finally someone who speaks my language. I tell people this information and they act like I'm from another planet. flanger and phaser sound the best BEFORE distortion!

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