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hot tubes
Silver Member

Canada
162 Posts

Posted - 05/29/2009 :  02:46:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
what would cause a dim LED on a CS-3 , my dvom says it
has 2.43 volts when lit , i installed a 3 mm super brite
LED. but still it is very dim , tryed a different LED ,and
same problem .

what resistor controls the LED voltage , sorry i can't find
a good schematic around.

thanks to the forum.

cctsim
Silver Member

United Kingdom
418 Posts

Posted - 05/29/2009 :  02:53:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
R35 controls the LED current.

There is also a z-diode (D9) in series that might be the problem.

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hot tubes
Silver Member

Canada
162 Posts

Posted - 05/29/2009 :  03:16:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i'l check it out an get back to you !!

thanks again.............
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hot tubes
Silver Member

Canada
162 Posts

Posted - 05/29/2009 :  03:42:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
removed D9 diode and jumperd it and the LED is now BRIGHT !!
but i don't have a zener diode on hand , will any other diode
work or no ?

thanks for your help .
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cctsim
Silver Member

United Kingdom
418 Posts

Posted - 05/29/2009 :  04:33:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
According to the schematic, it needs to be a 5.6V zener diode. They are quite cheap so the best thing is to get a proper replacement.

Regular Si diodes will have a different behavior and probably not work.
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hot tubes
Silver Member

Canada
162 Posts

Posted - 05/29/2009 :  04:36:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
will it damage anything to run it with the jumper wire ?

thanks
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member

Canada
4854 Posts

Posted - 05/29/2009 :  14:34:41  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Can't seem to find a schem that gives the value of R35. What value is it?

If R35 is anything above 1k, it should be fine. I've always felt that Boss' approach of putting a zener in this part of the circuit was a bit "belt and braces".
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hot tubes
Silver Member

Canada
162 Posts

Posted - 05/29/2009 :  15:34:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
R35 = 3.3K and it checks out good .
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Laurie
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Canada
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Posted - 05/29/2009 :  16:26:54  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yeah... you should be OK to leave D9 jumpered. Worst case is something puts a reverse voltage spike on the LED and kills it.
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Dr. Bob
Moderator

Australia
6593 Posts

Posted - 05/29/2009 :  18:10:37  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi hot tubes & Guys

I'm not 100% sure if missed something here.

But is your CS-3 an earlier one that uses the ACA unregulated 12VDC adapter?
I have one that is ACA, & another that is PSA 9VDC Regulated modern type.

Is/was the LED still dim if you used a known good 9V battery?

My ACA has the DIM LED when used with a PSA.
I just did the ACA to PSA resistor mod to mine.

Hope this helps?

Regards Dr. Bob
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cctsim
Silver Member

United Kingdom
418 Posts

Posted - 05/29/2009 :  21:53:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good point Dr Bob.

I remember I had to remove D10 and R32 and short them in order to use a PSA adapter.
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hot tubes
Silver Member

Canada
162 Posts

Posted - 05/30/2009 :  04:26:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Bob

Hi hot tubes & Guys

I'm not 100% sure if missed something here.

But is your CS-3 an earlier one that uses the ACA unregulated 12VDC adapter?
I have one that is ACA, & another that is PSA 9VDC Regulated modern type.

Is/was the LED still dim if you used a known good 9V battery?

My ACA has the DIM LED when used with a PSA.
I just did the ACA to PSA resistor mod to mine.

Hope this helps?

Regards Dr. Bob




HELLO DR.BOB

this cs-3 is a standard 9 volt type.

thanks for your help .
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hot tubes
Silver Member

Canada
162 Posts

Posted - 06/01/2009 :  20:22:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
finished installing the supplied monty allums kit , and left in the
jumper wire , my customer is happy now , he has a great sounding
CS-3 with a working LED to boot !!!

thanks again to the forum for your help !!!
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Dr. Bob
Moderator

Australia
6593 Posts

Posted - 06/02/2009 :  08:44:15  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi hot tubes

Nice to hear you have it all up and running again.

Which CS-3 schematic are you working from, or referencing?

Or do you possibly have the actual CS-3 Service notes?

Regards Dr. Bob
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hot tubes
Silver Member

Canada
162 Posts

Posted - 06/06/2009 :  21:41:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hello DR. BOB

i can't remember , but it was a link off this site .....
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gmreszel
Copper Member

USA
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Posted - 06/08/2009 :  05:46:02  Show Profile  Visit gmreszel's Homepage  Reply with Quote
While we're on the topic. I just did an outdoor Friday and the stock leds were useless. Apart from putting clear brights in, how can I find the the proper R location for each of my pedals so I can change to value for brighter,,,it's not the same location for all pedals is it (R35)? I have a lot of outdoor gigs this summer and I need the leds to be able to compete with the sun.
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