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phostenix
Gold Member

USA
754 Posts

Posted - 03/02/2006 :  14:53:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Out goes the SP-1, in comes the Klon....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7395202860

stahlhart
Platinum Member

1318 Posts

Posted - 03/02/2006 :  17:31:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think that it's time to man up and just start saying "no" to these people.

No one needs an SP-1 that badly. At least for a DM-2 at $250-350 or whatever you're getting something that you'll actually end up using. None of the boutique guys are even going to waste their time cloning this thing.

At some point, there's going to be a last buyer -- no one will pay more than they did for it, and no one will even pay the same that they did. And then they're going to be stuck with it. Beanie Baby.



C.K.
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Vim Fuego
Gold Member

Denmark
566 Posts

Posted - 03/02/2006 :  19:54:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As long as there are collectors there will be buyers.. If its the missing piece in your collection then the price perhaps wont matter much.

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pawnshop_trash
Gold Member

USA
603 Posts

Posted - 03/02/2006 :  21:14:09  Show Profile  Visit pawnshop_trash's Homepage  Reply with Quote
as much as I would like to have an SP-1, I agree with Stahlhart. $400 for an SP-1 is just insane, and I wouldn't spend that kind of $ on one even if I had the cash to spare.

that said, I really do like parametric eqs. I have all of Boss' other parametrics (PQ-3B, PQ-4, PQ-50, RPQ-10), and also the Dunlop QZ-1 (not really a parametric eq, more like a static wah stompbox). I use one of them every time I play....
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stahlhart
Platinum Member

1318 Posts

Posted - 03/02/2006 :  22:00:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I guess that if you are looking at it from a collector's point of view, and if the SP-1 was that one blank spot you needed to fill -- then mabye once you're seeing it from that perspective, then the price doesn't matter as much.

It's probably because I still see these things as gizmos that get actual use, and not like stamps in an album or paintings on a wall or statues in a glass cabinet. In that sense, Vim is right -- someone is taking a significant step in building their collection, and perhaps we ought to just think "more power to 'em"...

C.K.
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Vim Fuego
Gold Member

Denmark
566 Posts

Posted - 03/03/2006 :  12:09:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Although I also find these high prizes ridiciously I still wonder if I should buy me a DM-2, DM-3, SG-1 and VB-2 now.

I don't think they will get any cheaper.

Guess I'm still hoping for a seller who dont know the "real" value (got me a SP-1 for about 90$)

Cheers
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Sunburst
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427 Posts

Posted - 03/03/2006 :  12:22:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There will always be the debate on wether its worth the money or not, and for some people it is, and for some people it isnt. The discussion itself is meaningless. Its all about if youre a player and/or collector and the current price is based on supply and demand.

The question is only how much you are willing to pay for that certain pedal. The question if it is worth the money or not have no answer. There is no right or wrong here.

I am a Boss collector mainly and a player secondly. I also own an SP-1 and I agree with Vim Fuego, if you dont have these rare ones now, there will come a time when you want them in your collection and they will not get cheaper...

Edited by - Sunburst on 03/03/2006 12:56:45
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bossarea
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United Kingdom
3652 Posts

Posted - 03/03/2006 :  13:40:31  Show Profile  Visit bossarea's Homepage  Reply with Quote
For a player I don't think they're worth the money. I spent around $300 each for my VB-2 and SG-1 but if I were looking for the sound rather than the pedal it really wouldn't have been worth the money. I took the plunge because I don't think they're getting any cheaper. I got my SP-1 for $200. It may be regarded as cheap but it's more than it's worth for its sound.

In some ways it's sad because the pedals were built to be played and they're just sitting on a shelf for my own benefit right now.
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stahlhart
Platinum Member

1318 Posts

Posted - 03/06/2006 :  22:36:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And another one heads for the shelf...

C.K.
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Big Boss Man
Gold Member

USA
564 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2006 :  18:52:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi, I am the buyer from the auction link above. I am both a player and collector. Some of my purchases (such as this one) are more for collecting/investment purposes than for playing. Bottomline is these pedals keep going up and up in value. As long as there is a market for effect pedals there will always be buyers for the vintage ones as well. I already missed out on owning a '59 Les Paul. Don't be suprised if some of these pedals become just as unreachable ten years from now.
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bossarea
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United Kingdom
3652 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2006 :  19:03:42  Show Profile  Visit bossarea's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi and welcome to the forum.

They do keep going up in value. It's only a year ago I said that I wouldn't pick up the missing rarities unless I could find them at an affordable price. A few months ago I doshed out 2 x $300 for the VB-2 and SG-1. Thought I was mental when I did it but as you said, they may be unreachable a few years from now.
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s0ulzer0
Copper Member

USA
18 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2006 :  19:17:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
$300 for an SG-1!?!
Is it because you use a volume swell and that's THE best one or just for the fact it's an out of production pedal?
When I picked up my GT-8, it has the SG-1 effect in it and I wasn't that impressed with it.
Does the SG-1 stomp sound better?

I don't think I could get myself to roll out $300 or more on a single stomp.
That's why the only "boutique" stomp I own, I picked up used.
I just can't bring myself to do it for a stompbox. $175 is the max I could see myself spending.
Ok...maybe $200 as I do like that Fulltone OCD, but I can justify that with the fact I would use it in my rig. YES! LOL!

Edited by - s0ulzer0 on 03/10/2006 19:20:37
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bossarea
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United Kingdom
3652 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2006 :  20:32:21  Show Profile  Visit bossarea's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I'm sure the GT-8 version is much better than the real SG-1. I bought it because I had been staring at Ebay auctions for 5 years and seen prices go up and up and... Well, I got tired off looking.
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