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Johnrocks
Silver Member

Brazil
175 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2010 :  07:42:49  Show Profile  Visit Johnrocks's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Iīve been looking for a Wah and decided to get a Vox 847 BUT I discovered that they have been made in China and people said that it does NOT sound like when it was made in the US. So, I decided to not buy the new Vox of course. Then I remembered something about PW-10!
What can you guys say about that pedal? Is it good? Thereīs a review at http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Effects/product/Boss/PW-10 V-Wah/10/1

Is it a tone sucker too?

Tks guys!

Edited by - Johnrocks on 01/19/2010 07:46:01

nosi0
Gold Member

Netherlands
511 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2010 :  08:10:37  Show Profile  Visit nosi0's Homepage  Click to see nosi0's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I don't have any experience with the PW-10 but i recently bought the Vox Big Bad Wah. it's a great pedal for vintage and modern wah tone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Jx60tLXxdA
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jackderringer
Silver Member

USA
153 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2010 :  08:31:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i would also like to hear opinions on the pw-10, particularly if anyone's played a bass thru it
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Laurie
Double Platinum Member

Canada
4854 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2010 :  09:13:31  Show Profile  Visit Laurie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I own a PW-10. It is "OK". A bit pedestrian - a good solid work horse like most Boss gear, but not something to get the blood pumping.
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Goran
Double Platinum Member

Sweden
2203 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2010 :  12:09:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Itīs much better than the cheap Vox, Iīve had both at the same time and compared.
The Vox sounded very thin and unispiring.
What I really like with PW-10 is the Uni-Vibe setting, great!
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Witloofboer
Gold Member

Belgium
513 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2010 :  12:29:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I actually like the Vox. I own one and I've had some good reactions about it. It didn't sound thin (in my opinion), but rather full.
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Goran
Double Platinum Member

Sweden
2203 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2010 :  13:10:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Witloofboer

I actually like the Vox. I own one and I've had some good reactions about it. It didn't sound thin (in my opinion), but rather full.


I donīt want to say that you have a wrong opinion, tastes differ of course.
Right now I have the best wah wah I ever had, and Iīve had a late 60īs Vox, itīs a Cry Baby were the electronics are substituted by a Roger Mayer kit. This wah smokes!
One great wah is also Colorsound, I think there are reissues of it.
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Witloofboer
Gold Member

Belgium
513 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2010 :  14:44:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Goran

I donīt want to say that you have a wrong opinion, tastes differ of course.
Right now I have the best wah wah I ever had, and Iīve had a late 60īs Vox, itīs a Cry Baby were the electronics are substituted by a Roger Mayer kit. This wah smokes!
One great wah is also Colorsound, I think there are reissues of it.



I know it was your opinion! No hard feelings Is that Colorsound an orange wah, with a strange system to make the pot turn around?
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Goran
Double Platinum Member

Sweden
2203 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2010 :  15:00:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Witloofboer

quote:
Originally posted by Goran

I donīt want to say that you have a wrong opinion, tastes differ of course.
Right now I have the best wah wah I ever had, and Iīve had a late 60īs Vox, itīs a Cry Baby were the electronics are substituted by a Roger Mayer kit. This wah smokes!
One great wah is also Colorsound, I think there are reissues of it.



I know it was your opinion! No hard feelings Is that Colorsound an orange wah, with a strange system to make the pot turn around?


I have only seen blue and black ones, but I suppose there is more colors.
Yes, the sweep of Colorsounds is very long, some like it some not. But to my ears they are really nice wah wahs.
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Dirk
Platinum Member

Netherlands
1309 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2010 :  16:49:22  Show Profile  Visit Dirk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The Vox model in the PW-10 is actually quite good.
I don't know how it compares to a real vox wah, but it's a decent,
usable sound nonetheless.
My brother has used one for about 10 years now, without any complaints.
You only have to loosen the wires to the memory switch in the heel, that's unusable and a particular source of frustration to most people.
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Johnrocks
Silver Member

Brazil
175 Posts

Posted - 01/21/2010 :  06:08:36  Show Profile  Visit Johnrocks's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Iīve been reading reviews and it seems that 97% of people like that pedal very much. Iīm really thinking about buying it!
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jackderringer
Silver Member

USA
153 Posts

Posted - 01/21/2010 :  06:18:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
whenever i see your posts i can't help but imagine that we're really hearing the thoughts of House.

house is thinking about getting a pw-10.

go for it, house.
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archimedes
Silver Member

United Kingdom
191 Posts

Posted - 01/21/2010 :  13:14:56  Show Profile  Visit archimedes's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Personally I didn't like it, the sounds were OK but far too digital for my ears, also there is quite limited travel on the pedal. The best part was the Univibe sound - now only if they did that in an analogue pedal. I had my for 2 or 3 years, sold it for a good price and have since reverted to my Cry Baby which isn't as nice as the Coloursound I once had but does the job OK especially after a few simple mods. I don't use wah a whole lot but if I did I think I would explore some of the other analogue options before considering a digital one. Bottom line I guess is to try one in a relatively quiet shop where you can listen closely to the sound and compare it with other offerings.

David

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Dr. Bob
Moderator

Australia
6593 Posts

Posted - 01/21/2010 :  13:44:34  Show Profile  Visit Dr. Bob's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Johnrocks

Iīve been reading reviews and it seems that 97% of people like that pedal very much. Iīm really thinking about buying it!


Hi Johnrocks
May I suggest you try it out for a while at the store/friends house for a while, to see what you really think about it.
The short travel length-arc of the pedal does not suit everyone.

In the following paragraph's, I'm not being negative or knocking the PW-10.
I just want you & others to be very aware, of how the PW-10 works.

Just a few things to consider about the PW-10:
Or what they didn't tell you about the PW-10

If you are running it off batteries,
it uses 6x AA penlight batteries, not a standard 9V battery.
Because it's COSM & DSP.
It's a little heavy on current consumption, but the AA's will last for a while.

If running it on a power adapter,
be careful as the DC in socket is mounted very low on the pedal at the front.
It is so low, that you can only use it on very short pile carpet,
and hard floors, as it will sink into longer pile carpet,
& place a REAL lot of bending stress on both the plug & socket.
You have to see this to really appreciate how much stress it places on the parts

I have not found an easy fix for this problem.
I did try to turn the DC in socket upside down, but it didn't work.

Programming & changing the deeper settings on the PW-10, has a steep learning curve,
you WILL need to have the manual handy & read it very thoroughly.
It's about as difficult as the RC-2 is to a new user.

Can I suggest you download the user manual & read it.

The programing steps involve pulling out the input socket,
to turn it on & off to (set-reset-memorize) the new settings.
It can be a pain in the butt, you will do it so many times.
You will wish that Boss-Roland would have included a small switch
for this cumbersome/awkward step/method, of changing things.

Lastly, you may/will have to run something like an LM-2 Limiter, or a compressor in Limiter mode to tame the massive difference in the levels, between straight wah, & them with wah & a modeled dirt pedal, like the MT-2, this is one of the standard factory patches.
Ir will frighten the Cr@p out of you the first time you go from wah to to dirty wah.

It can be, & is very difficult to get the levels right with the limited controls on the front panel, & the awkward disconnection step of the input plug.

Over all, the sounds in the PW-10 are pretty decent for the money.
But I would suggest you buy one secondhand, to save some $cash$.
Or have the option of returning git to the store, if you're not happy after a few days.

And please do try to change some of the programs, there are a lot of hidden sounds inside the PW-10, that I can pretty much guarantee, that not many people have heard.
They are just difficult to get to.

Make sure it comes with the user manual.

Yes I have a PW-10, & I do use it sometimes.
But I'm a vintage Italian JEN Crybaby, red or white Fasel Man first.
The PW-10 is one of my go-to backups.

You will love the rotary COSM simulation, it pretty decent for the money.

I hope this helps you some how?

Johnrocks, you are welcome to PM me if you want to know more.
Regards Dr. Bob

Edited by - Dr. Bob on 01/21/2010 13:54:53
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Johnrocks
Silver Member

Brazil
175 Posts

Posted - 01/22/2010 :  08:50:47  Show Profile  Visit Johnrocks's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jackderringer

whenever i see your posts i can't help but imagine that we're really hearing the thoughts of House.

house is thinking about getting a pw-10.

go for it, house.

Cool! I love House! Watching it since the first season! Dr. House has been thinking about getting PW-10 but heīs also thinking about getting a DD-20.
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jackderringer
Silver Member

USA
153 Posts

Posted - 01/22/2010 :  23:50:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Johnrocks

quote:
Originally posted by jackderringer

whenever i see your posts i can't help but imagine that we're really hearing the thoughts of House.

house is thinking about getting a pw-10.

go for it, house.

Cool! I love House! Watching it since the first season! Dr. House has been thinking about getting PW-10 but heīs also thinking about getting a DD-20.


who knew!
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