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Austen
Bronze Member

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Posted - 08/15/2006 : 18:05:25
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Ok, There have been plenty of love-fest posts...but lets face it , not ever product is a winner! I have a great deal of admiration for the products of Boss but now lets play Devils advocate : let's name the all time crappy loser pedals they produced. And they did! A few of them stink! Remember to state your reasons.
I'll start the ball rolling.
Both of them distortions.
The XT-2... Yuk and blah X2. Non-transparent, fake mud. Oh how I dislike thee! And how quickly I sold it!
The MZ-2...I don't care if Gilmore played it. I have ears! Again, my vote for the all time fakazoid bad digital distortion of all time- guaranteed to slay your guitar's tone. All guitars sound the same through it. Blerk!
Who else?
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hungrymusician
Bronze Member

Malaysia
95 Posts |
Posted - 08/15/2006 : 19:25:42
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interesting thread... unquestionably,for me CH-1 - most sterile chorus pedal ive come across. DS-1(mit)-man,how i hate the buzz saw type dist,and yet its so popular?! DS-1(mij)-warmer and richer but still that buzzy dist!
Found that the -2's models are more appealing than the -1s,maybe except TW-1,still yet to try an OD-1. |
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jack
Platinum Member
   
USA
1418 Posts |
Posted - 08/15/2006 : 19:36:57
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| I wouldn't necessarily say its the worst Boss pedal, but its the one that I thought I would get more use out of, but actually could not use it at all. That pedal is the NF-1. For me it just seemed to either cut off notes too soon or not soon enough, and then mine seemed to be more of a boost than a cut at times. Maybe it was just the one I picked up on eBay, but I am not sure. It was soon replaced by an NS-2 which does a great job. So now my NF-1 is in my collection, cause I can't use it, but at least its MIJ, so it has that going for it. |
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diggum12
Silver Member
 
USA
282 Posts |
Posted - 08/15/2006 : 19:56:02
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I might get slammed for this one, but an unmodded CS-3 has got to be one of the worst excuses for a compressor I've ever heard. 
I had my highest hopes for an OC-3. I just knew I would love it. I sold it the day after I got it. The AB-2 kind of pissed me off too, since it has to have a batter to operate. |
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Big Boss Man
Gold Member
  
USA
564 Posts |
Posted - 08/16/2006 : 02:25:13
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CS-3, XT-2, PH-3
Edit: PH-3 not PS-3 |
Edited by - Big Boss Man on 08/22/2006 03:11:40 |
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StratoSphere
Double Platinum Member
    
Canada
2232 Posts |
Posted - 08/16/2006 : 03:36:51
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XT-2 takes the cake for me
DS-1, DS-2, DF-2, HM-3 are all kind of dull distortions as well. not necessarily bad, but just dont stand out from one another. |
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Goran
Double Platinum Member
    
Sweden
2203 Posts |
Posted - 08/16/2006 : 07:18:04
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XT-2 and NF-1, they are more or less useless. As for performance per $ it must be SG-1, considering the price they go for these days.
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sniffin
Copper Member
Italy
20 Posts |
Posted - 08/16/2006 : 10:34:12
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Hi well I have had a fair amount of boss pedals and I'm very convinced that the metal screw versions of most pedals are the best, eg. I have owned a MIJ metal screw DS-1, a MIJ plastic screw DS-1 and a MIT DS-1 and the last 2 degrade very much and have almost nothing to do with the metal screw version. The same difference between MIJ DS-2 and MIT DS-2...these are 2 distinctively different pedals with the same name. I must say though that the boss pedal that I have found most useless is the DF-2 (both MIJ and MIT versions) even thought the MIJ version has IMO a sweeter distortion. |
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controlfreak
Silver Member
 
Ireland
337 Posts |
Posted - 08/16/2006 : 11:03:32
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| for me it's gotta be either the BF-3, OC-3, CH-1, PW-2 or AW-3 |
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lost_in_sound
Silver Member
 
United Kingdom
150 Posts |
Posted - 08/16/2006 : 12:15:13
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| you can hardly say the BF-3 is a very bad pedal |
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controlfreak
Silver Member
 
Ireland
337 Posts |
Posted - 08/16/2006 : 12:59:50
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i just did!!
no but i really didn't like it's highly metallic sound, seems to me the best sounding flangers are the most organic sounding ones.
it's a bit like the difference between the PH-1r and the PH-3. if you're used to the PH-1r you'll prob hate the PH-3 |
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lost_in_sound
Silver Member
 
United Kingdom
150 Posts |
Posted - 08/16/2006 : 13:56:28
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| the amount of things you can do with it are astounding. it'd probably take you a few weeks to cover everything it can do, you can get rid of the metallic sound |
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controlfreak
Silver Member
 
Ireland
337 Posts |
Posted - 08/16/2006 : 15:53:46
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fair enough point but sometimes pedals are better if kept simpler. i think most people would pick a pedal with one particular sound if that sound is good over a similar pedal with bells and whistles but a reduced sound quality.
i guess it's the same reason we all seem to love boss pedals over multi effects |
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Dingus
Silver Member
 
USA
472 Posts |
Posted - 08/16/2006 : 17:12:27
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I agree with controlfreak on this subject, I find the vast amount of settings and controls on the PH-3 and BF-3 to be fairly useless. I think the only time that we never get enough controls and settings is when it comes to Delay, for Delay we just pile'em on and no one says anything otherwise except for maybe that there should be more delay time, or it should be more like a Looper or more analog sounding.
I think Boss had the right idea when creating both of them (I do actually really like the Monetary Flange function on the BF-3, and wish all pedals had it). But I honestly don't think we're ready for them. |
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jack
Platinum Member
   
USA
1418 Posts |
Posted - 08/16/2006 : 17:53:46
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| I think when it comes to some of the "bells & whistles" features of the BF-3 and PH-3, and other pedals, I think some of those features are included as an example of "this perhaps isn't all it can be yet, but at least we are making/trying innovations". That and it may partially be Boss thinking,"If someone didn't buy a previous version of this pedal, what can we add to try and lure them in this time?" Plus that and from a marketing standpoint, everyone makes phasers and flangers, so what can be done to make this pedal standout from other pedals of the same effect? Lets add....blah blah blah. |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
    
Ireland
3543 Posts |
Posted - 08/16/2006 : 22:59:59
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sorry folks... but i can't agree about the cs3,ds1 and the ch1... i use all three and i think especially with the cs3 and the ds1 the trick is not to max out the distortion and compression levels... and your guitar and amp also have a lot to do with the sound..valve amps have a lot of natural compression anyway and with the ch1 i have one of the older ones(analog)i wasn't mad about it in mono,but i think it sounds great in stereo,with my ph2 i can get a swirly leslie sort of sound and if i mess with the bf2 i can get a really thick chorus sound....with the cs3 i max out the attack level and keep the sustain level below half and the tone about half as well...and the ds1 i keep the distortion below half,the treble about quarter and the level about 75%..i also found out that active guitars(in my case anyway..)don't work so good with compression/distortion pedals they seem to me to 'push' the pedal too hard....  |
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