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misterdetail
Bronze Member

USA
112 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2009 :  01:51:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My limited and only recording experience is with an old Fostex 4-track cassette recorder. I pulled it out today and did a few test runs with my Rockman X100. I like what I hear and even more the convenience of not needing to lug around or mic an amp. However, who listens to or uses cassettes for recording anymore? Can I get some more modern recommendations on what to use, preferably bypassing the need for a computer interface and also not shelling out too many dollars? I just want to plug my Rockman in to it, hit record and then hopefully generate something I can mix and copy right to CD. Thanks in advance!

zerksies
Double Platinum Member

USA
3406 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2009 :  02:50:37  Show Profile  Send zerksies an AOL message  Click to see zerksies's MSN Messenger address  Send zerksies a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
i was looking at the boss micro br could do that or the tascam one
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DeFrag
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USA
3409 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2009 :  03:18:32  Show Profile  Visit DeFrag's Homepage  Click to see DeFrag's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
There's a new Tascam 1000CD that has XLR inputs & 4-track I think. I've longed for a simple recorder with at least four tracks & proper inputs that didn't have effects & crap. I ended up settling for the 2-track Korg MR1000.
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misterdetail
Bronze Member

USA
112 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2009 :  03:55:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the input! A couple of things about the Rockman X100. It connects to the recorder with RCA jacks. It also requires two channels every time you record a track because it records in stereo. Otherwise the chorus effect on the Rockman is compromised. So you pan one channel full left and the other full right. I'm learning as I go but man it really sounds good so far. Just wish it weren't cassette and it had a built in way to mix and burn to CD. Thanks again and keep the suggestions coming if you got them.
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member

Ireland
3543 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2009 :  10:41:18  Show Profile  Visit FRANZONI's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I have one of the first Tascam DP-01 recorders... it's not bad for what it is,and on the newer ones you can burn tracks straight to the built in disc burner,it only does two tracks at a time and has a bank of built in effects for guitar,vocals,bass etc...the studio reverb is a seperate effect and quite good IMHO not too heavy and adds some nice ambience on mix down,the screen is small and doesn't have a backlight which is pretty crap......i'll not big on digital stuff and would like to go back to something simpler with the same or better quality and i'm not big on the way digital reacts when there is a bit of overload on an input,but i can't see Tascam,Fostex etc going back to tape so i best get used to it..........it's ok for what it is and for the little bit of recording i do ..more than enough...down the line i might look at a small desk with a USB link(like the mackie) so i can load some software on the laptop for more tracks and try recording the band live(i'm old skool on this i think live and in a couple of takes is the way to go,have the track rehearsed beforehand or you can lose the feel if it starts dragging on)... i have a a couple of old 4 track reel to reels,a mint condition Akai and a bit battered Sony..i was thinking of linking the akai off the tape outs on the desk if i go that route for a comparsion against digital...

Edited by - FRANZONI on 01/19/2009 10:46:04
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Right Foot Boss
Gold Member

USA
881 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2009 :  15:03:02  Show Profile  Visit Right Foot Boss's Homepage  Send Right Foot Boss an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I still use cassettes for recording. I have all the computer software to record tracks but I always find myself doing demos on a 4-track cassette recorder. it just feels right that way.
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bossarea
Forum Admin

United Kingdom
3652 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2009 :  15:21:28  Show Profile  Visit bossarea's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I recommend that you get 8 tracks if possible. 4 tracks is very limiting and mixing down will always make the sound quality worse.

I got the Micro-BR but I fancy an upgrade. The Micro-BR is too small and the COSM amp simulations aren't good enough.
I am tempted by the BR-600 but afraid it's got the same amp sims so I might look into what Tascam has to offer instead.
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Dirk
Platinum Member

Netherlands
1309 Posts

Posted - 01/22/2009 :  17:29:29  Show Profile  Visit Dirk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I had one of these in elementary school.

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DeFrag
Moderator

USA
3409 Posts

Posted - 01/22/2009 :  19:16:59  Show Profile  Visit DeFrag's Homepage  Click to see DeFrag's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
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pedals 4 pv
Platinum Member

Canada
1351 Posts

Posted - 01/22/2009 :  20:29:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was looking into some recording equipment last fall, and the music store dude had high regard for Zoom's handheld recorders. They lead in features and usability in their price range and are the best seller locally. My needs weren't that extensive so I got an RC-2
http://www.samsontech.com/products/productpage.cfm?prodID=1916&brandID=4
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DeFrag
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USA
3409 Posts

Posted - 01/22/2009 :  21:22:13  Show Profile  Visit DeFrag's Homepage  Click to see DeFrag's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I tried the Zoom H4 but promptly returned it.. what a piece of plastic.
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zestystrat
Silver Member

USA
283 Posts

Posted - 01/22/2009 :  23:13:43  Show Profile  Visit zestystrat's Homepage  Reply with Quote
If you have an ipod: Belkin's TuneStudio. I have heard a few good things about it.

Also, and this doesn't fall within your quest, I love Apple's GarageBand app for demos, sketching out ideas etc.

No reason for me to write up a drum part if I can get close with a loop. I can usually get something together pretty quickly, convert to an mp3 and upload to the bands website for them to learn b/f our next rehearsal. I usually don�t care all that much about tone etc on these demos (getting the idea down and out to the band is the objective), but I have gotten some great recorded gtr sounds going straight into a cheap $39 bridge and right into the Mac via USB.

Any Mac bought within the last few years has it already installed.


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PaulH
Gold Member

535 Posts

Posted - 01/22/2009 :  23:48:14  Show Profile  Visit PaulH's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The Boss BR series is pretty good.
I did a whole album (recorded, mixed, mastered) using a BR1180.
Very simple standalone multi-track recorder.


Nowadays though I prefer the PC route and do everything with Sonar.
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Heart and Soul
Silver Member

USA
369 Posts

Posted - 01/23/2009 :  03:32:29  Show Profile  Visit Heart and Soul's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i love how you ask for a modern recording suggestion and shun computers...
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member

USA
3406 Posts

Posted - 01/24/2009 :  00:10:51  Show Profile  Send zerksies an AOL message  Click to see zerksies's MSN Messenger address  Send zerksies a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
SHoot the last time i recorded in studio was before all this digital stuff. it just started to come out.
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PaulH
Gold Member

535 Posts

Posted - 01/24/2009 :  09:29:17  Show Profile  Visit PaulH's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The all-in-one recorders are fine.
Plug in cable up and press record.

The PC route can be a nightmare...
decent PC, do I go for a laptop or desktop and then what spec.
do I run Windows Vista, XP or just get a Mac;
what software do I use, Cubase, Logic, Sonar,
what soundcard, do I want XLR inputs, do I want midi;
Will I need a midi keyboard for all those synths....
etc.
etc.


Personally I use a laptop and Sonar... plus other stuff.
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