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zerksies
Double Platinum Member
USA
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 Posted - 01/20/2009 : 00:15:03
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| Well i live in an apartment.And i have found out that i have electrial noise.I tried the humX what a piece of overpriced garbage.I didn't start to have noise problems till i got rid of my furman sp8 pedal board everthing was tied into it.I am now thinking of getting a power conditioner. anybody have good experiences with them? anyone using one? |
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Cicatriz ESP
Bronze Member
USA
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Posted - 01/20/2009 : 01:31:11
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| Some of the power conditioners from Carvin looked pretty awesome. I would check those out if I were you. However, I have no experience with them, I'm just going from reviews. |
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DeFrag
Moderator
USA
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Posted - 01/20/2009 : 03:00:50
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Its a toss-up between Furman & Monster as they're both very good.
Power conditioners are different than true voltage regulators.
What do you want to spend & I'll see what's out there.
I'm about ready to get one myself only for protection, not noise. |
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member
USA
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DeFrag
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USA
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DarrinPA
Silver Member
USA
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Posted - 01/20/2009 : 04:50:46
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These things are often hyped. I'm not saying they're useless but for the price... I wouldn't pay too much for one. I have used the Furman PL series, which did not help at all. I still had to find the sources of hum and deal with it seperately. I have also used a few different Monster Power units and wasn't happy with it for the price. Both brands probably do help with light amounts of interferance, but if there is a true hum-causeing source plugged into your power supply, it's more than likely going to still be some what of a problem.
And remember, once the power is filtered and cleaned, it can easily accept more interferance before it reaches whatever you're powering. I had the problem of a cord being laid over another cord after the unit, which caused problems. I just use regular $3 power strips now, even though I still own a Monster. |
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DeFrag
Moderator
USA
3409 Posts |
Posted - 01/20/2009 : 05:37:34
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| AC from the power company is anything but clean. It varies by 30V as I've experienced first hand & is rife with intrinsic noise. I'd say regulate your voltage, condition your power, & then worry about hum within your environment by minimizing the proximity of data & signal cables from your power cables, keeping fluorescent lights, SCR dimmers, & other electronic equipment away from your pickups, amps, mixers, records etc. |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
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Posted - 01/20/2009 : 08:40:54
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I'm wondering if it's because you use 110v power in the U.S....?..as your probably aware we use 220-240v in europe and while i'm not sayinig i don't get some noise from time to time in venues we play it's fairly rare and usually bad earthing on the pub/clubs part to begin with...at home once i keep the computer off while the amp is on in the spare room i don't have any major issues..i certainly never considered or thought i needed a power conditioner or any other such gadget... |
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pedals 4 pv
Platinum Member
Canada
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Posted - 01/20/2009 : 09:10:26
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We've always believed that the perceived quality boost that comes from using high-end cables is really just a trick of the mind (read: justifying the ridiculous cost of premium cables to yourself) -- if you've dropped enough cash, you can probably hear anything you want. Still, our belief is one thing -- cold hard proof is another, and it looks like a group of 12 self-professed "audiophiles" recently couldn't tell the difference between Monster 1000 speaker cables and plain old coat hangers. Yeah, coat hangers. The group was A-Bing different cables, and unbeknownst to them, the engineer running the test swapped out a set of cables for coat hangers with soldered-on speaker connections. Not a single one was then able to tell the difference between the Monster Cable and the hangers, and all agreed that the hangers sounded excellent.
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http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/03/03/audiophiles-cant-tell-the-difference-between-monster-cable-and/ |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
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Posted - 01/20/2009 : 10:36:35
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Our singer is a bit of a muppet when it comes to this as well..he's into the more expensive cables too.. last year i bought a load of good quality,not too expensive mic leads for the band...one or two when a bit dodgy at the jack end into the desk...he goes out and spends a couple hundred euro of band money for the petty cash on 'better quality' ones and trys to dump the other in a the bin saying 'there crap'..lately on gigs i haven't been drinking at all so i'm observing a lot more on stuff that i would not normally see or notice...so at the end of the night both of us usually wrap the P.A. 'cause the other two are hopeless with this stuff,i notice him diconnecting all the leads out of the desk at the same time and leaving them in a bit of a 'spaghetti junction' on the floor and dragging them apart to start wrapping rather than disconnecting them one by one...no cable is going to last treated like this.. ...the rest of them are still working fine since i had a word in his shell....Laurie actually turned me onto making my own cables... i plan on stripping some of the 'broken ones' and replacing some of the connectors with good quality ones like neutrik or something similar......
As Les Paul once said after he put 'sides' on his first electric guitar because he wasn't getting any recognition.."my god...people hear with their eyes...!!"...... |
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pedals 4 pv
Platinum Member
Canada
1351 Posts |
Posted - 01/21/2009 : 17:57:20
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Originally posted by FRANZONI
I'm wondering if it's because you use 110v power in the U.S....?..as your probably aware we use 220-240v in europe and while i'm not sayinig i don't get some noise from time to time in venues we play it's fairly rare and usually bad earthing on the pub/clubs part to begin with...at home once i keep the computer off while the amp is on in the spare room i don't have any major issues..i certainly never considered or thought i needed a power conditioner or any other such gadget...
It probably isn't the difference in voltage, but the difference in frequency. Canadian and USian utilities operate at 60Hz and most other places are 50Hz. Inductance increases with an increase of frequency, so the higher frequency AC power here in North America can cause more induced noise. |
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FRANZONI
Double Platinum Member
Ireland
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Posted - 01/21/2009 : 18:11:41
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| I remember some of the older guys on the gigging scene telling me about amps going on fire especially Marshalls back in the 60's and 70's here in Ireland,not a widespread thing i must add but the was the odd story........seemingly at the time our electricity service was pretty bad with a lot of fluctuation in it..i don't know the exact science of it or it did cause the amps to go on fire......some of these guys were a bit loopy lu to say the least,i saw more than one of them plugging in heads and cabs with guitar cables......... |
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zerksies
Double Platinum Member
USA
3406 Posts |
Posted - 01/24/2009 : 22:19:58
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| well today i went out and bought a furman the cheap one for about 59 bucks it was well worth it. i could tell a good tone change.It sounds a little more clearer. I even run my pedal board through it. I have cut down on half the hum.i get and i love my single coils |
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